2015 Rules

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield

Jeff, so I read it wrong I guess. So now you if you run your challenger in GT: its FGT/H instead of GT/HA......and Beards 80 Volare, and Southards 74 duster are now not in GT/HA either but in your class? FGT/H That doesn't sound right.....

Eric yes Beard's car will now be in FGT/H. Because it has a new 360 engine combo. I texted Mike yesterday and said how's it feel to run with the big boys now lol.......Just having fun with Mike he took it in stride.

[Michael Beard]

RE: aluminum radiators, IHRA's allowed them for a long time. Common sense.

RE: Factory classes: We established "FX" classes at the Northern Class Nationals from the beginning. I welcome NHRA's new class structures, and we will utilize these at next year's event. Class Eliminations with no AHFS will be a great show!

Originally Posted by deuces wild

Eric yes Beard's car will now be in FGT/H. Because it has a new 360 engine combo. I texted Mike yesterday and said how's it feel to run with the big boys now lol.......Just having fun with Mike he took it in stride.

They did me a favor (not just because I make full-color printed decals, either!) I've never been a threat to the other cars in my class, but rather the other way around, since I have very little budget. I'll basically have my own class now, and don't have to worry about heads-up runs, since I rarely if ever see Jeff or Jamie. Also due to the GT separation of FWD and RWD combos, the only people that can really get my HP hit would be Bardekoff or Stancil's car, but the rest of us are holding the average down. Without the fast traditional cars in the class to push people, it's going to take a lot more new cars in order to push each other to get them factored where they belong.

They really ought to tag the Factory indexes, quite a lot honestly. I'd be surprised if they hit 'em with a superficial -.10 on the indexes due to the politics involved, though.

The numbers of the new cars will go down

I see zero reason for any new car to quit, nor for any new car being built to be shelved, even if they announced that the Factory indexes would be lowered -.30 (which they won't, anyway).

[Kevin Panzino]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Just about everybody I know feels like the 360" is the absolute softest deal out there.

Very accurate statement Ed.

360" DP, 11.4 CR, 2.02/1.6 valves, 4x1.75" throttle body... rated 275 HP...

Throw in there the 352 CJ..... 11.25 CR, 2.08/1.6 valves, 4x1.75" TB.... rated 285HP

[Ed Wright]

Jeff, the easiest thing would have been to take a look at the specs, and give them a more realistic hp rating going in. Ray Chareles, in his present condition, could compare the specs to known engines, and say "Are you kidding?"

[Jeff Teuton]

OK, I guess mine just ain't as good as everyone else's. I think I will change to something better next year. I want one of them LT1 motors like Ricky Decker or Ed Wright got. According to the world famous Nitro Joe, that thing is pretty good.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

OK, I guess mine just ain't as good as everyone else's. I think I will change to something better next year. I want one of them LT1 motors like Ricky Decker or Ed Wright got. According to the world famous Nitro Joe, that thing is pretty good.

The 360" heads are bigger, and on the same flow bench the intake ports flow over 40 cfm more with more compression plus over 300 cfm more throttle body and 10 more cubic inches, rated 4 Hp less. If I could not take all that and blow an LT1 away heads up I would go shoot myself.

[Larry Hill]

Based on how fast the showdown cars went in Vegas, an altitude adjusted track. it looks to me that a .6 second reduction in index for FS/A and FS/B would be correct. That would bring the winners of FS/A and FS/B to about -.95 under. So if they work on there cars this winter.... the good ones will be -1.05 under at Indy.

We will all be disappointed if the indexes are so soft that all of the byes will go to all of the 2008 and up FS cars.

[Ed Wright]

Larry, to keep their race sponsors happy, you can bet the indexes will be at least as soft as they are now. About all we will gain is no heads ups with them.


If I hit the Powerball, I'm still going to fix that 360". LOL!!

[Ven302]

SS/CS Heads,
I talked with Bruce this afternoon, he told me that presently only two heads are approved ( both from Dart for the chevy), one is a 180 cc, the scary one is the 230cc 308 cfm head as cast. I got the feeling that just any iron heads wont be the deal. But they needed to have something to help the Chevrolet guys as they were cracking heads in short order. Knowing what these engines can break, I would not wish that on anybody. While I am concerned we all know that port volume or cfm do not only make the HP, I have worked an awful lot of stuff to find .07 over the year, so I cant imagine we will be obsolete, YET. Bruce and the NHRA seem to be aware of how touchy this is. The good thing is that there should be more trying out the SS/CS water, I can attest to the warmth (DAMN near boiling!). My biggest fear is that the class dwindles to 5 or 6 cars then gets written off.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Ven302

SS/CS Heads,
I talked with Bruce this afternoon, he told me that presently only two heads are approved ( both from Dart for the chevy), one is a 180 cc, the scary one is the 230cc 308 cfm head as cast. I got the feeling that just any iron heads wont be the deal. But they needed to have something to help the Chevrolet guys as they were cracking heads in short order. Knowing what these engines can break, I would not wish that on anybody. While I am concerned we all know that port volume or cfm do not only make the HP, I have worked an awful lot of stuff to find .07 over the year, so I cant imagine we will be obsolete, YET. Bruce and the NHRA seem to be aware of how touchy this is. The good thing is that there should be more trying out the SS/CS water, I can attest to the warmth (DAMN near boiling!). My biggest fear is that the class dwindles to 5 or 6 cars then gets written off.

Vince, I was told a complete different story and that ANY aftermarket cast iron head will be allowed. Was also told that the GM LS cast iron 1999-2000, 6.0L,OEM truck 873 casting cylinder head was approved. This cast iron head, untouched, already has 210cc intake runner volume with a 2.0" intake valve. Add bigger valves and some extensive porting, they will flow 360+ CFM's.

If any of the Ford racers are interested, I know were a pair of brand new untouched RHS Ford, 20 degree cast iron cylinder heads with 225cc intake volume heads and 57cc chambers, are located.