2015 Rules

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Ven302

SS/CS Heads,
I talked with Bruce this afternoon, he told me that presently only two heads are approved ( both from Dart for the chevy), one is a 180 cc, the scary one is the 230cc 308 cfm head as cast. I got the feeling that just any iron heads wont be the deal. But they needed to have something to help the Chevrolet guys as they were cracking heads in short order. Knowing what these engines can break, I would not wish that on anybody. While I am concerned we all know that port volume or cfm do not only make the HP, I have worked an awful lot of stuff to find .07 over the year, so I cant imagine we will be obsolete, YET. Bruce and the NHRA seem to be aware of how touchy this is. The good thing is that there should be more trying out the SS/CS water, I can attest to the warmth (DAMN near boiling!). My biggest fear is that the class dwindles to 5 or 6 cars then gets written off.

My APOLOGIES for misspelling your name, Venice.

If they are the only two approved cylinder heads for the GM brand, then NHRA has to publish it. Too many times I have been told by NHRA to go ahead and proceed to do a change even when I have been given a written approval just to be rescinded months later. Therefore, unless it is on the approved list, there are no guarantees.

As a matter of fact, I proposed the RHS/Pro Action cylinder heads for the Ford application as an alternate cylinder head. I submitted all the technical data, pictures and even offered to bring a head to a race. After awaiting for a response for a full year, I just gave up.

As regards to running SS/CS, I was going to run in the class. Nevertheless, since I already had knowledge of the upcoming rule and it will eventually be an exercise in futility, the car is being built to run in Comp Eliminator Super Modified with D3 cylinder heads.

As regards to the LS cast iron cylinder head, it will outflow the N351 and it is an OEM cylinder head according to NHRA.

[Another Friendly Racer]

Mr. (or Mrs.) FS FAN,

Be careful what we wish for? You are right. I should continue to show up at the track and get my doors blown off week in and week out by a new car. Yep, good idea. Let the new cars win and guys with an old car, go be a duck a smile. Hey, 1 out of a 100 times an old car will win, look at this one race at indy!

Thank you NHRA! I really don't care if I can no longer qualify at Indy, at least I can race again.

[FS Fan]

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer

Mr. (or Mrs.) FS FAN,

Be careful what we wish for? You are right. I should continue to show up at the track and get my doors blown off week in and week out by a new car. Yep, good idea. Let the new cars win and guys with an old car, go be a duck a smile. Hey, 1 out of a 100 times an old car will win, look at this one race at indy!

Thank you NHRA! I really don't care if I can no longer qualify at Indy, at least I can race again.

Please share with us the time or times your doors were blown off by a new car that you were the fastest older car and you could not have moved to a different class to avoid a new car. I am asking for a specific race.

If you weren't the fastest older car then what does it matter who beat you?

If you could have moved to avoid a new car why didn't you?

And lastly is there no old car that has a softer rating than you? You've been the fastest car forever in your class? Never has a car gotten factored away from your class?

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by FS Fan

Please share with us the time or times your doors were blown off by a new car that you were the fastest older car and you could not have moved to a different class to avoid a new car. I am asking for a specific race.

If you weren't the fastest older car then what does it matter who beat you?

If you could have moved to avoid a new car why didn't you?

And lastly is there no old car that has a softer rating than you? You've been the fastest car forever in your class? Never has a car gotten factored away from your class?

Dude you are in the wrong place for your no-name, chicken hearted BS. I have had to deal with this crapolla for six years and now it looks like the new cars are where they belong. These new classes simply confirm what many of us said years ago. That is, they had no business in regular Stock and Super Stock Classes.

[FS Fan]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Dude you are in the wrong place for your no-name, chicken hearted BS. I have had to deal with this crapolla for six years and now it looks like the new cars are where they belong. These new classes simply confirm what many of us said years ago. That is, they had no business in regular Stock and Super Stock Classes.

Bruce,
You are right. When you state your position so eloquently how could I not be swayed.

I'm looking forward to seeing you rack up class win after win, and dominate the many heads up runs you have in the eliminator. Cheers!

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by FS Fan

Bruce,
You are right. When you state your position so eloquently how could I not be swayed.

I'm looking forward to seeing you rack up class win after win, and dominate the many heads up runs you have in the eliminator. Cheers!

Won class twice this year and have the fastest pass of the year so far by a real A/SA Stocker. And you're full of poop. How's that for eloquence?

[Superfan1]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Won class twice this year and have the fastest pass of the year so far by a real A/SA Stocker. And you're full of poop. How's that for eloquence?

That's eloquent in my book; give 'em hell Bruce!

[Jim Kaekel]

Originally Posted by FS Fan

Bruce,
You are right. When you state your position so eloquently how could I not be swayed.

I'm looking forward to seeing you rack up class win after win, and dominate the many heads up runs you have in the eliminator. Cheers!

I've been a victim of a heads-up race with a newer car that was basically a "drive-by" shooting. I'll tell you, it's no fun and how can someone boast that they won a race when they have a totally bogus HP rating. I actually like the Drag-Paks, CJ's and COPOS, but they don't belong in Stock Eliminator. They belong in SS. I'm just glad that at least, they're in their own classes now. Hey, I even use my real name 'cause I've got a "sack".

[Jeff Teuton]

My numbers for the FS Shootout Indexes were lower than NHRA used last year. My numbers for this year are 9.60, 10.0 and for another idea I proposed is FS/N for Nostalgia. 8.25 lbs 11.10 index no ahfs and no runnoff between the classes. FS/N for 72 +/- and older. And Larry, your analization of LV shootout numbers; you know as well as I, there can be no more fickle track that LV. You can't judge that track by anything. And another thing for the Shootouts, only 10 cars can transfer to the A Main (stock eliminator) if all 10 qualify, which at those numbers might be questionable. We can fuss about that all day. We are still fussing about Adam and Eve. I really don't understand the SS Changes. We are moving forward with two new cars for next year in Stock. And Ed, I can run 8.90 with my 360, but I don't, and specs are important, but performance dictates the things we are talking about. And as far as thrashing, I been thrashing on Mopars since 1968. However I am a slow learner. Maybe that's it.

[Bill Diehl]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

My APOLOGIES for misspelling your name, Venice.

If they are the only two approved cylinder heads for the GM brand, then NHRA has to publish it. Too many times I have been told by NHRA to go ahead and proceed to do a change even when I have been given a written approval just to be rescinded months later. Therefore, unless it is on the approved list, there are no guarantees.

As a matter of fact, I proposed the RHS/Pro Action cylinder heads for the Ford application as an alternate cylinder head. I submitted all the technical data, pictures and even offered to bring a head to a race. After awaiting for a response for a full year, I just gave up.

As regards to running SS/CS, I was going to run in the class. Nevertheless, since I already had knowledge of the upcoming rule and it will eventually be an exercise in futility, the car is being built to run in Comp Eliminator Super Modified with D3 cylinder heads.

As regards to the LS cast iron cylinder head, it will outflow the N351 and it is an OEM cylinder head according to NHRA.

That will be a nice piece