2015 Rules

[FS Fan]

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer

Mr. (or Mrs.) FS FAN,

Be careful what we wish for? You are right. I should continue to show up at the track and get my doors blown off week in and week out by a new car. Yep, good idea. Let the new cars win and guys with an old car, go be a duck a smile. Hey, 1 out of a 100 times an old car will win, look at this one race at indy!

Thank you NHRA! I really don't care if I can no longer qualify at Indy, at least I can race again.

Please share with us the time or times your doors were blown off by a new car that you were the fastest older car and you could not have moved to a different class to avoid a new car. I am asking for a specific race.

If you weren't the fastest older car then what does it matter who beat you?

If you could have moved to avoid a new car why didn't you?

And lastly is there no old car that has a softer rating than you? You've been the fastest car forever in your class? Never has a car gotten factored away from your class?

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by FS Fan

Please share with us the time or times your doors were blown off by a new car that you were the fastest older car and you could not have moved to a different class to avoid a new car. I am asking for a specific race.

If you weren't the fastest older car then what does it matter who beat you?

If you could have moved to avoid a new car why didn't you?

And lastly is there no old car that has a softer rating than you? You've been the fastest car forever in your class? Never has a car gotten factored away from your class?

Dude you are in the wrong place for your no-name, chicken hearted BS. I have had to deal with this crapolla for six years and now it looks like the new cars are where they belong. These new classes simply confirm what many of us said years ago. That is, they had no business in regular Stock and Super Stock Classes.

[FS Fan]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Dude you are in the wrong place for your no-name, chicken hearted BS. I have had to deal with this crapolla for six years and now it looks like the new cars are where they belong. These new classes simply confirm what many of us said years ago. That is, they had no business in regular Stock and Super Stock Classes.

Bruce,
You are right. When you state your position so eloquently how could I not be swayed.

I'm looking forward to seeing you rack up class win after win, and dominate the many heads up runs you have in the eliminator. Cheers!

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by FS Fan

Bruce,
You are right. When you state your position so eloquently how could I not be swayed.

I'm looking forward to seeing you rack up class win after win, and dominate the many heads up runs you have in the eliminator. Cheers!

Won class twice this year and have the fastest pass of the year so far by a real A/SA Stocker. And you're full of poop. How's that for eloquence?

[Superfan1]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Won class twice this year and have the fastest pass of the year so far by a real A/SA Stocker. And you're full of poop. How's that for eloquence?

That's eloquent in my book; give 'em hell Bruce!

[Jeff Teuton]

Ed, the 360 appeared in 71 I think. Then about 76.348 revisions with heads, pistons, manifolds, and god knows what else mostly for emissions, then the lifters were changed to rollers mid 80, then on and on then the magnum with efi cause it absolutely won't pass emissions, then the DP motor. And lot's in between. It ain't new by any means. It's still the same basic lower motor from 71 with knock off Edlebrock heads and a single plane manifold (in stock). Super Stock of course is a little different. To give you an idea, the pistons are 100 grams heavier than a 360 Magnum truck motor. Now for the Chevies, when you need something you can go to Wal Mart, CVS, Target, Cosco and get ready to race heads, and any other part you need at reduced prices and available at midnight. With all the research and devleopment and parts availablity, your car should go 8.90's and you should be kickin the DP's tail (tale). You need to work on that thing. And what is the wheelbase on your car? 90 inches. These DP's are so long they are articulated in the middle. Did yall know emissions actually started with the 68 model cars. It didn't come back around till EFI and total engine and car management. Just you history lesson for today. Test next Friday.

[Ed Wright]

Lmao!
Next Friday? I had better study.

Larry, I don't see any way they will put the indexes where they belong. They are too indebted to the auto mfgrs, their race sponsors.

[Larry Hill]

On the Factory Showdown cars a .6 second reduction would be a real number on the indexes. I did go back and look at Indy, Maple Grove, and Gainesville , most of the cars in the finals were about 1.50 to 1.60 under. A .6 second reduction will bring the under number to close to 1.00 second under the index. The cars that can run 1.00 + under at Indy are all good cars.

Every once in a while some odd combo comes out and runs a little further under, but not that often.

The indexes of the new FS class cars will say a lot!

[Jeff Teuton]

I am sure they will have the same effect as the changes 12 years ago did to pickup trucks. Haven't seen a new race truck since. Newest is a 97 model. Probably have the same effect. I'm sure a lot of new 69 Camaro's will appear. I know multiple people have complained that they won't race because of the new cars, so 200 or so returning racers should be ready for next year. Anybody got a better number? Maybe 400? The numbers of the new cars will go down, and the old cars will go through the roof. They had some old truck ran 2.42 under at Indy. That thing needs a 2 second hit for the truck shootout, but wait, almost all the trucks went home. But I got a new method. When you pull in the gate and pass tech, you get a Wally. Then the fuel check, scale, tech folks are off for the rest of the weekend. You only have to state your class when you tech. After that, it's a bracket race even for identical vehicles. Everyone wins. No more haveing to race for Class. You win and get a wally. Nobody is paying anyway. Ken will quit Class Racer because it's boring. Paring will be with a deck of cards. It don't matter who wins the race anyway, you already got your Wally. Maybe just get your Wally and go home, or even better just pay the$310 entry and they will mail your Wally. Save the fuel cost. Ed won't have to thrash any more, Bruce will be happy all the time, Larry Hill won't have to analize the times and classes and won't have to spend time getting his hp reduced while the rest of us squak so he can run to the front. But wait; there is no front. Hummmmmm I got to work on that one. I know. Best reaction is the ladder. Now we got it. What is the next thing we need to solve?

[Jim Kaekel]

Originally Posted by FS Fan

Bruce,
You are right. When you state your position so eloquently how could I not be swayed.

I'm looking forward to seeing you rack up class win after win, and dominate the many heads up runs you have in the eliminator. Cheers!

I've been a victim of a heads-up race with a newer car that was basically a "drive-by" shooting. I'll tell you, it's no fun and how can someone boast that they won a race when they have a totally bogus HP rating. I actually like the Drag-Paks, CJ's and COPOS, but they don't belong in Stock Eliminator. They belong in SS. I'm just glad that at least, they're in their own classes now. Hey, I even use my real name 'cause I've got a "sack".