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Old 12-02-2015, 09:20 PM   #1
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Deep staging was banned for two reasons. 1.) It was causing a lot of problems for the racers in the opposing lane who were not deep staging, and 2.) A poll was conducted and a large majority of the racers voted against it. nhra put that problem away years ago and you can believe it will never allow it to return.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:40 PM   #2
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^^^^^^^ There you go.
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Old 12-02-2015, 10:22 PM   #3
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1.) It was causing a lot of problems for the racers in the opposing lane who were not deep staging,
Bruce, I honestly don't remember this. Could you give us an example?
What I remember is it causing a lot of problems for racers who DID deep stage.
A few guys would skip their burnout or do a brief one, then charge up to the line and stage quickly so the d/s er wouldn't have time to get all the way in, instead of just running their own program.
NHRA didn't quite know how to deal with it, so they put up a bogus poll so they would be covered.
I called the poll bogus because ,as I mentioned in my first post here, polling people who probably would never deep stage makes little sense, unless they wanted a specific outcome.
Also included in this "poll" were those who didn't even understand the concept, as illustrated right here in this very thread.
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^^^^^^^ There you go.
ED, I thought you were done with this thread, a few pages back?
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Old 12-02-2015, 10:28 PM   #4
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Bruce, I honestly don't remember this. Could you give us an example?
What I remember is it causing a lot of problems for racers who DID deep stage.
A few guys would skip their burnout or do a brief one, then charge up to the line and stage quickly so the d/s er wouldn't have time to get all the way in, instead of just running their own program.
NHRA didn't quite know how to deal with it, so they put up a bogus poll so they would be covered.
I called the poll bogus because ,as I mentioned in my first post here, polling people who probably would never deep stage makes little sense, unless they wanted a specific outcome.
Also included in this "poll" were those who didn't even understand the concept, as illustrated right here in this very thread.
ED, I thought you were done with this thread, a few pages back?
You are spot on Mark.....Joe Mocci
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Old 12-06-2015, 12:02 AM   #5
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A poll was conducted and a large majority of the racers voted against it.
Nobody told me about this poll or sent me a ballot. Since you seem to know a lot about this poll, how many racers voted on it? What were the percentages? I never saw any results. Maybe you can fill me in.

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nhra put that problem away years ago and you can believe it will never allow it to return.
Yes, because we all know NHRA always makes solid, well thought out decisions.

And to the person who always raced to the line trying screw the deep stagers, karma always catches up.
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Old 12-06-2015, 12:48 AM   #6
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Nobody told me about this poll or sent me a ballot. Since you seem to know a lot about this poll, how many racers voted on it? What were the percentages? I never saw any results. Maybe you can fill me in.



Yes, because we all know NHRA always makes solid, well thought out decisions.

And to the person who always raced to the line trying screw the deep stagers, karma always catches up.
Hey Toby.......Thanks for your support.....Joe Mocci
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Old 12-06-2015, 12:51 AM   #7
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Toby, check with Jody. I'm sure he remembers because he was not happy with the outcome. But like many people said at the time, he still continues to win races. You coming back anytime soon?
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Old 12-06-2015, 01:10 PM   #8
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Gotta love these deep staging guys with selective memories. http://www.dragracingonline.com/goindeep/iv_5.html
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Gotta love these deep staging guys with selective memories. http://www.dragracingonline.com/goindeep/iv_5.html
Well, no kidding, obviously I knew about the poll *AFTER* it happened. Like I said, nobody sent me a ballot or asked me if I wanted to vote on it. And I never saw any results printed anywhere, did you? Like how many racers were polled, what were the totals for and against. All I knew is they were outlawing it. Did any deep stagers get to vote on it???

I think the main reason most people didn't like deep staging was because most of the racers doing it at the time were good racers who won a lot, so sure, it was definitely causing a lot of problems for the racers in the opposing lane.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:59 PM   #10
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Every Stock racer on the planet knew about it in advance, including you. You guys got a fair chance and lost by a ton.
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