A case for Tru-Start

[Don Morris]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Not sure I follow the logic. The slower car does not get a second chance to win. Why is the slower car immediately disqualified when the faster car hasn't done anything? Both drivers should be judged on their individual performance, but in the current redlight rule, the driver of the faster car never gets judged if the driver of the slower car redlights.


I used to shoot pistols competitively. If I missed the mark on my trial, my opponent does not automatically win until he submits his performance. If he misses more than I do, then I win. What's the difference?

I wasn't going to post anything more on this topic. But....
Just assume handicapped races right now, with no other exceptions such as hitting the wall or failing fuel or weight.

Simply stated, under the T-S system, if the slower car redlights he is NOT immediately DQd. He could go on to win the round if the faster car goes red by a greater margin. If the slower car goes green and the faster car goes red, the faster car IS immediately DQd, with no further chance to win that round.
Sounds to me like the slower car gets another chance to win when he redlights. That's all I'm trying to say.
Want absolute fairness? If anyone goes red during elims, they are DQd. It would surely muck up the race, but you would have attained absolute "fairness".

[Greg Reimer 7376]

Originally Posted by Don Morris

I wasn't going to post anything more on this topic. But....
Just assume handicapped races right now, with no other exceptions such as hitting the wall or failing fuel or weight.

Simply stated, under the T-S system, if the slower car redlights he is NOT immediately DQd. He could go on to win the round if the faster car goes red by a greater margin. If the slower car goes green and the faster car goes red, the faster car IS immediately DQd, with no further chance to win that round.
Sounds to me like the slower car gets another chance to win when he redlights. That's all I'm trying to say.
Want absolute fairness? If anyone goes red during elims, they are DQd. It would surely muck up the race, but you would have attained absolute "fairness".

Sounds like a good way to create more competition singles for the rest of the next round's winners.

[Mickey Whaley]

How many on this topic have actually won an nhra national or divisional event in stock or super stock just want to know so I know what I'm talking to?????

[Bob Mulry]

AND

If Tru-Start is not implemented than we should also do away with the break-out rule and have the first car to beak-out be disqualified......

If it works that way at the starting line how come it doesn't work that way at the finish line?????????????

OR

Double Red Lights = both out......Double Break Outs = both out.....

It would be fair and equal.....

The only problem would be that they would have to hold the results of the slower car leaving so that the faster car has an equal chance to loose...

I personally think that Tru-Start is the way to make it fair...

But in lieu of fair maybe we should just disqualify both cars if it is a double red light or double break out?????????

[Mickey Whaley]

I'm going to throw up because you just cant fix stupid.............

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

How many on this topic have actually won an nhra national or divisional event in stock or super stock just want to know so I know what I'm talking to?????

I won Sacro Div. 1995 Finished 5th in Div 7 points with 2 more races in the year to go to. If I just showed up I would have finished 3rd. Maybe 7 National events and always made 3rd round and some 4th round losses. Not sure what it has to do with leveling the race. But ok

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

I'm going to throw up because you just cant fix stupid.............

You are absolutely right, YOU can't fix stupid.......

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

You are absolutely right, YOU can't fix stupid.......

You are right fah qn

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

You are absolutely right, YOU can't fix stupid.......

And you are still talking without a win

[Mickey Whaley]

You can sit on the wall with my monkey he will give you a snack leaving for a while will be back in a day to get BP down