Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

I have thought about this and I say if you can scrub 2 seconds off your ET and still get the win, you are the winner. This would be different from somebody purposely dialing above the index because they can't run it. They should be DQed immediately or if the tower catches it they are dialed-in with the index.

Thinking along those lines;
How about if Jim had done as you said, and won the whole thing?
Post race interview, he says."Yeah , I saw the over the index (incorrect) dial-in in the 3rd round but I staged up anyway. I got a clean tree, then I waited for him , and then wheeled him all the way to the finish line.Thankfully, it all worked out."

Now what, NHRA?

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Thinking along those lines;
How about if Jim had done as you said, and won the whole thing?
Post race interview, he says."Yeah , I saw the over the index (incorrect) dial-in in the 3rd round but I staged up anyway. I got a clean tree, then I waited for him , and then wheeled him all the way to the finish line.Thankfully, it all worked out."

Now what, NHRA?

NHRA loads up and heads to the next race, while Jim treats his family, friends and crew to a nice victory meal.

[Ron Ortiz]

So let me get this straight. If I leave the starting line and notice that my dial was over the index, and pedal it, and win by some luck, it is OK. So, that means that if I hurt my motor in a previous round, I just dial up to cover it and not be concerned with the incorrect dial if I can pedal or stay in it to hit it.

So, we are truly bracket racing with the flexibility of the dial.over or under the index. I guess all the people who have been eliminated for the wrong dial now have a second chance with this fiasco from NHRA. Now, lets add in Tru-Start.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA what a mess

[HR9121]

I'm pretty sure if he had wheeled it and won the round he would've been DQ'ed even though he had the correct dial on his car he accepted the incorrect dial by staging. Best case scenario he might would've got a rerun but I would imagine just a DQ.

[jcadreau1]

Originally Posted by HR9121

I'm pretty sure if he had wheeled it and won the round he would've been DQ'ed even though he had the correct dial on his car he accepted the incorrect dial by staging. Best case scenario he might would've got a rerun but I would imagine just a DQ.

Why would he get DQ'ed? It was an error by someone in the tower and he did not intentionally dial over the index. If that scenario would have occurred then his opponent would then have an argument for a rerun. I'm guessing his opponent was aware of the incorrect dial giving his late reaction time and being well above his dial or maybe just caught off guard with Jim leaving first. What happens if Hildago redlighted and they DQ'ed Jim for staging with a dial above the index even though it was an error by the tower? Then you have the possibility of both drivers being eliminated and a round 4 bye to the next opponent.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by jcadreau1

Why would he get DQ'ed? It was an error by someone in the tower and he did not intentionally dial over the index. If that scenario would have occurred then his opponent would then have an argument for a rerun. I'm guessing his opponent was aware of the incorrect dial giving his late reaction time and being well above his dial or maybe just caught off guard with Jim leaving first. What happens if Hildago redlighted and they DQ'ed Jim for staging with a dial above the index even though it was an error by the tower? Then you have the possibility of both drivers being eliminated and a round 4 bye to the next opponent.

An argument could be made that he would be DQ'd by staging on an 'illegal' dial-in. Even though it was a mistake in the tower, it is ultimately the racer's responsibility to ensure the dial-in is correct.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree with that, but I'm guessing that would have been the result had Jim managed to win that round.

If Hidalgo had been red, it wouldn't have mattered and he would have been reinstated following the opponent's DQ.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

An argument could be made that he would be DQ'd by staging on an 'illegal' dial-in. Even though it was a mistake in the tower, it is ultimately the racer's responsibility to ensure the dial-in is correct.

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Yes, you could make that argument.
On the other hand, NHRA says , if you stage on it, you own it. (period)
Can't have it both ways.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by jcadreau1

Why would he get DQ'ed? It was an error by someone in the tower and he did not intentionally dial over the index. If that scenario would have occurred then his opponent would then have an argument for a rerun. I'm guessing his opponent was aware of the incorrect dial giving his late reaction time and being well above his dial or maybe just caught off guard with Jim leaving first. What happens if Hildago redlighted and they DQ'ed Jim for staging with a dial above the index even though it was an error by the tower? Then you have the possibility of both drivers being eliminated and a round 4 bye to the next opponent.

Someone else already explained it very well, it doesn't matter that someone entered it incorrectly it is ultimately the racer's responsibility to ensure their dial is correct before they stage.

[jcadreau1]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Someone else already explained it very well, it doesn't matter that someone entered it incorrectly it is ultimately the racer's responsibility to ensure their dial is correct before they stage.

Agreed.. Just a lot of what if situations that could have been avoided if the tower and Jim had been paying attention.