NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes???

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Real Racers will race.

What do you mean by "real racers"? Can you elaborate?

In my book, anyone that spends the money and time to race in Stock and Super Stock class, is a real racer.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

In my book, anyone that spends the money and time to race in Stock and Super Stock class, is a real racer.

You hold that thought if it makes you feel better.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

You hold that thought if it makes you feel better.

Billy,
I call it the way it is and don't need your patronizing.

[SSDiv6]

One interesting fact is that as discussed earlier, one of the first users of intake manifold adapters in the 1970's was Ed Hamburger on his Mopar 340 and 360 Super Stock engines. The adapter allowed Ed to use a SBC intake. Therefore, since the 1970's NHRA has been allowing spacers and adapters in Super Stock class.

As a matter of fact the Ed Hamburger and Bruce Bachelder (former NHRA Tech Rep) Mopar used the adapter with the SBC intake until Offenhauser came out with the SBM Port-O-Sonic intake.

[dannyboy]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

One interesting fact is that as discussed earlier, one of the first users of intake manifold adapters in the 1970's was Ed Hamburger on his Mopar 340 and 360 Super Stock engines. The adapter allowed Ed to use a SBC intake. Therefore, since the 1970's NHRA has been allowing spacers and adapters in Super Stock class.

As a matter of fact the Ed Hamburger and Bruce Bachelder (former NHRA Tech Rep) Mopar used the adapter with the SBC intake until Offenhauser came out with the SBM Port-O-Sonic intake.

I beg to differ with you, We, Brian Bachelder, Bruce Bachelder, and myself, Dan Chipman campaigned the 74 Duster, 71 Duster and 72 Demon with Ed's engines and parts and set many records and class wins without any Chevrolet Manifolds. Ed flew me to the world finals when he ran the Duster with Carlos Lawrence to test manifolds and none of them were Chevy's. He may of tried them on the W-2 heads in Super Modified.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by dannyboy

I beg to differ with you, We, Brian Bachelder, Bruce Bachelder, and myself, Dan Chipman campaigned the 74 Duster, 71 Duster and 72 Demon with Ed's engines and parts and set many records and class wins without any Chevrolet Manifolds. Ed flew me to the world finals when he ran the Duster with Carlos Lawrence to test manifolds and none of them were Chevy's. He may of tried them on the W-2 heads in Super Modified.

My apologies, my comments were based on information i was given many years ago when i crewed a a few Mopars that had Ed's engines with the Chevy intake during the early 1970's.

[ron morehead]

I'm gonna jump in on this one since there are UNINFORMED creatures out there. Our Heads that are in question are roughly 2-2 1/2 years old its the Gen 3 stuff. If these modifications are illegal why did it take this long for them to say this when they NHRA saw this configuration Long before Indy this year. If You so called racers think that we are .15 ahead of everyone except Zavala is all in the head design you need to quit right now because you have no work Ethic. The individuals that are the SO Called engine builders that are complaining are more interested in racing instead of being in the shop, on the Dyno or at the test sessions working with there customers instead they are promising there customers that this will work or that will work and all the customers are doing is lining their engine builders pockets. NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. Stop whining and get to work.

[dannyboy]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

My apologies, my comments were based on information i was given many years ago when i crewed a a few Mopars that had Ed's engines with the Chevy intake during the early 1970's.

The only Chevy part we had was a Corvette Tach. Drive Dual Point Dist. that Ed had John Hoffman make an adapter for

[SSGT Mustang]

This is a silly rule and that's being kind.

If the concern is the intake side of the head then make changes to head rule or maybe enforce the current rules.

Prohibit spacers? You have to wonder who if anyone at NHRA has any technical knowledge.

[Rory McNeil]

Bryon Worner, I believe that you run a SB Chevy, correct? An engine which probably has a wider selection of available race style intake manifolds than all the other engines that can run in Super Stock combined. In your opinion, do you think that it is "fair" that a SBC can choose from 30 or more intake manifolds, but a less popular engine should be restricted to 5000 RPM "RV" style dual plane intakes, if that is all that is commercially available? Frankly, if a 100 % hand fabricated sheet aluminum intake is legal in S/S, under the "any intake manifold allowed" , I really can not see why one should not be allowed to do whatever modifications are required to make any intake fit any cylinder head, provided it all fits under the hood.