NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes???

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

In my book, anyone that spends the money and time to race in Stock and Super Stock class, is a real racer.

You hold that thought if it makes you feel better.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

You hold that thought if it makes you feel better.

Billy,
I call it the way it is and don't need your patronizing.

[SSDiv6]

One interesting fact is that as discussed earlier, one of the first users of intake manifold adapters in the 1970's was Ed Hamburger on his Mopar 340 and 360 Super Stock engines. The adapter allowed Ed to use a SBC intake. Therefore, since the 1970's NHRA has been allowing spacers and adapters in Super Stock class.

As a matter of fact the Ed Hamburger and Bruce Bachelder (former NHRA Tech Rep) Mopar used the adapter with the SBC intake until Offenhauser came out with the SBM Port-O-Sonic intake.

[dannyboy]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

One interesting fact is that as discussed earlier, one of the first users of intake manifold adapters in the 1970's was Ed Hamburger on his Mopar 340 and 360 Super Stock engines. The adapter allowed Ed to use a SBC intake. Therefore, since the 1970's NHRA has been allowing spacers and adapters in Super Stock class.

As a matter of fact the Ed Hamburger and Bruce Bachelder (former NHRA Tech Rep) Mopar used the adapter with the SBC intake until Offenhauser came out with the SBM Port-O-Sonic intake.

I beg to differ with you, We, Brian Bachelder, Bruce Bachelder, and myself, Dan Chipman campaigned the 74 Duster, 71 Duster and 72 Demon with Ed's engines and parts and set many records and class wins without any Chevrolet Manifolds. Ed flew me to the world finals when he ran the Duster with Carlos Lawrence to test manifolds and none of them were Chevy's. He may of tried them on the W-2 heads in Super Modified.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by dannyboy

I beg to differ with you, We, Brian Bachelder, Bruce Bachelder, and myself, Dan Chipman campaigned the 74 Duster, 71 Duster and 72 Demon with Ed's engines and parts and set many records and class wins without any Chevrolet Manifolds. Ed flew me to the world finals when he ran the Duster with Carlos Lawrence to test manifolds and none of them were Chevy's. He may of tried them on the W-2 heads in Super Modified.

My apologies, my comments were based on information i was given many years ago when i crewed a a few Mopars that had Ed's engines with the Chevy intake during the early 1970's.

[ron morehead]

I'm gonna jump in on this one since there are UNINFORMED creatures out there. Our Heads that are in question are roughly 2-2 1/2 years old its the Gen 3 stuff. If these modifications are illegal why did it take this long for them to say this when they NHRA saw this configuration Long before Indy this year. If You so called racers think that we are .15 ahead of everyone except Zavala is all in the head design you need to quit right now because you have no work Ethic. The individuals that are the SO Called engine builders that are complaining are more interested in racing instead of being in the shop, on the Dyno or at the test sessions working with there customers instead they are promising there customers that this will work or that will work and all the customers are doing is lining their engine builders pockets. NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. Stop whining and get to work.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by ron morehead

I'm gonna jump in on this one since there are UNINFORMED creatures out there. Our Heads that are in question are roughly 2-2 1/2 years old its the Gen 3 stuff. If these modifications are illegal why did it take this long for them to say this when they NHRA saw this configuration Long before Indy this year. If You so called racers think that we are .15 ahead of everyone except Zavala is all in the head design you need to quit right now because you have no work Ethic. The individuals that are the SO Called engine builders that are complaining are more interested in racing instead of being in the shop, on the Dyno or at the test sessions working with there customers instead they are promising there customers that this will work or that will work and all the customers are doing is lining their engine builders pockets. NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. Stop whining and get to work.

Well said!

[Bob Smith]

[QUOTE== NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. .[/QUOTE]

Well said Ron, there is no substitution for hard work!
But why should it have been stopped if it is legal. Or is it not really legal? This makes it sound like the rule was broken and NHRA should have said something instead of the engine builders and racers just not breaking the rule in the first place.

[fredjohnston]

Originally Posted by ron morehead

I'm gonna jump in on this one since there are UNINFORMED creatures out there. Our Heads that are in question are roughly 2-2 1/2 years old its the Gen 3 stuff. If these modifications are illegal why did it take this long for them to say this when they NHRA saw this configuration Long before Indy this year. If You so called racers think that we are .15 ahead of everyone except Zavala is all in the head design you need to quit right now because you have no work Ethic. The individuals that are the SO Called engine builders that are complaining are more interested in racing instead of being in the shop, on the Dyno or at the test sessions working with there customers instead they are promising there customers that this will work or that will work and all the customers are doing is lining their engine builders pockets. NHRA should have warned or stopped this design 2 years ago the first time they saw this JUST like the did to the HEMI design. Stop whining and get to work.

It helps to go fast when you race a combination with a relative soft HP factor...just saying.

[dannyboy]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

My apologies, my comments were based on information i was given many years ago when i crewed a a few Mopars that had Ed's engines with the Chevy intake during the early 1970's.

The only Chevy part we had was a Corvette Tach. Drive Dual Point Dist. that Ed had John Hoffman make an adapter for