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Old 03-18-2021, 02:09 PM   #1
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It im not mistaken the exact same thing cost Lincoln Morehead the championship.
Kevin, you are correct. It did cost Lincoln the WC in 2002 if I am not mistaken. The incident occurred at the US Nationals at Indy, and yes it was a valve that got tuliped by 1 thou.
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Old 03-18-2021, 02:28 PM   #2
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I believe the the last decade of penalties handed out have not been harsh enough. The penalties must be directly related to future participation of a competitor and not monetary. We are not pros, we do not get paid to show up; therefore imposing a monetary fine on a sportsman competitor is absurd. The general population of sportsman competitors do this as a hobby and for fun. An extended period off from competition will definitely be more of a deterrent from cheating than getting a single race suspension and/or fine. All Bryan was trying to explain is that the NHRA's penalty spectrum has shrunk down to a "one size fits all" penalty for every infraction. You cannot actually believe that a competitor who inaccurately fills in their tech card, not resulting in any sort of competitive advantage can be compared to or given the same penalty as an illegal driveline component? NHRA needs to sit down, draw out all the infractions/penalties in black & white and stick to it. There will always be people over penalized and under penalized; however, if everyone involved knows they are all being treated equally, that is the end result, I believe, most of us would be willing to accept.
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Old 03-18-2021, 04:16 PM   #3
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Any bets on Gary paying the fine. I don’t think so. NHRA killed that cash cow. Give him a little time off and NHRA has a chance he might return.
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Larry, I think You are right.
These fines to sportsmen are not the same as the fines to professionals.
The Pro's have it covered with sponsors or in their budget.
The Mom and Pop racer is already hitting the retirement 401K hard just to get to the track.
The sportsman fine could be taking food off the table or the kids college fund.
NHRA needs to rethink that.
There is a better way for the NHRA police to enforce the rules.
BTW I'm like Billy. If I ever got a monetary fine I would pack it in.
In my last retirement period (since 2010) from NHRA I have found a lot of things to do that are as satisfying and as personally challenging as the races.
I've spent a lot of time flying my planes and working on them.
I think it is actually quite a bit cheaper than what I spent racing & the family enjoys it more.
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Old 03-19-2021, 07:42 AM   #5
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Any bets on Gary paying the fine. I don’t think so. NHRA killed that cash cow. Give him a little time off and NHRA has a chance he might return.
Isn't there an appeal process? And if so, who listens ans rules on the appeal?
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Old 03-19-2021, 08:19 AM   #6
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In your (everyone) opinion, does this QFT Stock/Super Stock legal carb have "polished" boosters?

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Old 03-19-2021, 08:05 PM   #7
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In your (everyone) opinion, does this QFT Stock/Super Stock legal carb have "polished" boosters?

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YES.
It does appear to have a polished finish. It looks like a tumble deburr machine, or a Centrifugal Barrel Finishing Machine with a mid size XM media. Or what theyre calling REM finishing. IMHO.
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That's not even the right carburetor. Summer's is 2 barrel.
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Old 03-19-2021, 10:12 AM   #9
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Isn't there an appeal process? And if so, who listens ans rules on the appeal?
Don't they charge you to file an appeal?

I'd be willing to donate to that cause.
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:40 AM   #10
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Isn't there an appeal process? And if so, who listens ans rules on the appeal?
There is an appeal process and you and car owner cannot compete at any NHRA EVENT OR SANCTIONED TRACK until the appeal is done. So most take the penalty and move on.
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