Did this just happen no generators?

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

Those overnight chargers work fine when you use your electric vehicle as a novelty, if it is going to be your primary mode of transportation with no Gas vehicle for back up. You will need the 60 to 70 amp Tesla charger, they can fully charge a Tesla in short time not of all night. By the way there are millions of house with 100 amp or less services, along with substations that would not handle the load if everyone owned electric vehicle's, that is simple ohms law. Your dryer circuit is a 2 pole 30A and will not run a Tesla Charger.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

What are you burning to make the electrical power????? What amount of earth are you destroying to get the elements to make those batteries ????? What are you doing with those batteries after they are dead ????

[Billy Nees]

There will always be oil. It may be made out of seaweed or plankton but it will always be here......... unless we finally decide to get serious about nuclear.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

There will always be oil. It may be made out of seaweed or plankton but it will always be here......... unless we finally decide to get serious about nuclear.

You are correct!
Still remember when I lived in Seattle, there was company converting the waste cooking oil from local restaurants into bio-diesel fuel and there were many local pumps selling the bio-fuel at a lower price than the gas stations with the regular diesel fuel.

The only issue I saw was that everytime I would be stopped a traffic light next to a car that used the cooking oil based bio-diesel, I would get hungry for French Fries or Calamari!

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ase-into-fuel/

[Frank Castros]

Renewable sources, while having orders of magnitude greater energy content than human society may use up, are not particularly easy to harness, allowing only a small part to be finally harvestable. There are tough technical, environmental and societal problems, all quite significant, that have to be solved and restrictions on its transmission and location of usage have to be followed. It will also require development of “wastetless technology” and recovery and recycle of materials, particularly those which are difficult to win from natural sources and may be in short supply. Thus, in the long run, “renewable energy” will become inevitable, but even this will require a great deal of effort and planning and will not come easy.

Or inexpensively.

[Mike Gray]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

You are correct!
Still remember when I lived in Seattle, there was company converting the waste cooking oil from local restaurants into bio-diesel fuel and there were many local pumps selling the bio-fuel at a lower price than the gas stations with the regular diesel fuel.

The only issue I saw was that everytime I would be stopped a traffic light next to a car that used the cooking oil based bio-diesel, I would get hungry for French Fries or Calamari!

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ase-into-fuel/

I like this - Collect all the waste oil from In-N-Out and convert it to bio-diesel then run it in my diesel generator in the pits and I will have a bunch of hungry guys looking for the food!.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mike Gray

I like this - Collect all the waste oil from In-N-Out and convert it to bio-diesel then run it in my diesel generator in the pits and I will have a bunch of hungry guys looking for the food!.

In the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Pa. area there are "gangs" stealing cooking oil from local restaurants!

[Frank Castros]

Can we use human waste for energy?

Northumbrian Water is one company that is now a recognized expert in the use of what it calls "poo power" - using human waste to generate gas and electricity. The water firm was the first in the UK to use all its sludge - the goo generated after raw sewage has been treated - to produce renewable power.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

Can we use human waste for energy?

Northumbrian Water is one company that is now a recognized expert in the use of what it calls "poo power" - using human waste to generate gas and electricity. The water firm was the first in the UK to use all its sludge - the goo generated after raw sewage has been treated - to produce renewable power.

I doubt THAT would smell like French Fries!

[tpoh815]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

Can we use human waste for energy?

Northumbrian Water is one company that is now a recognized expert in the use of what it calls "poo power" - using human waste to generate gas and electricity. The water firm was the first in the UK to use all its sludge - the goo generated after raw sewage has been treated - to produce renewable power.

If this is true then California alone and all their BS will have enough to power the whole country.

[Randy Wells]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

What are you burning to make the electrical power????? What amount of earth are you destroying to get the elements to make those batteries ????? What are you doing with those batteries after they are dead ????

I recently retired, the last project I worked on was the largest wood pelletizer in North America as an Electrical Inspector, and was part of the Commissioning and Start Up, it will produce 580 tons of pellets a year. These pellets are not the kind you use in a Bar B Q smoker, or home pellet stove, these are made for power plants. Europe and the UK signed on to the climate accord years ago when Trump smartly got us out, part of that deal was to retrofit their coal power plant boilers over to wood. Wood is considered a renewable energy. These pellets from the facility I worked on are made from 70% pine and 30% hardwood, and 100 % of these pellets are shipped to Europe and the UK, via the Arkansas River, to the Mississippi, loaded on cargo ships and sent across the pond. The substation feeding this plant was updated to supply 28 MVA of power, that is 28 million watts at a cost of 15 million to upgrade. This facility uses wood to fire the furnaces for the dryers, there is 4 lines and 4 furnaces It takes 17 years to grow a pine tree to maturity, and 3 times that long for hard wood. The facility is all rotating equipment and requires a lot of workers just to keep it running unlike a Hydrocarbon facility. Maybe this is part of the reason 2X4s are so expensive.
There were 70 Electricians on this project, and half of them couldn’t speak English, and the quality of there work was very substandard. There is an article in the NEC 110.10, that states all work shall be done in a workman like manner, these boys missed that part in there training, never seen such a piss poor install in my 45 years as an Industrial Electrician, one of the reasons I retired

Randy Wells
I/S 5628