New AHFS

[james schaechter]

There are different ways to make changes, positive ways that reward people with incentive and then there are the NHRA ways. I could see this as part of a solution in concert with more rewards for performance, but NHRA execs chose only the punitive side. Unfortunately, it appears that the bean counters still rule NHRA. No racer input needed.

[Nmbr1GMfan]

"Data collected through the NHRA Live timing data base (including 660 foot elapsed time and 1000 foot elapsed time comparisons) will be utilized to verify if adjustments are needed".

[SSDiv6]

Since the inception of the Stock and Super Stock classes, the classes have been always considered a performance class. I believe that in the old Farmer and subsequent days, although not perfect, the adjustment system was fair.

How about heads-up runs? The current rule does not exempt heads-ups runs. The only exception is as follows: "No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review."

My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!

[GUMP]

My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!

As they are planning to watch the incrementals, I can't see that as an option.

Whoever wrote these changes obviously didn't do their homework!

[denbreeden]

NMCA is the place to be, granted it doesn’t help the racers out west.

[1347]

Originally Posted by denbreeden

NMCA is the place to be, granted it doesn’t help the racers out west.

Why is NMCA the place to be?

They use an NHRA rulebook correct? Or do they have there own Stock/SuperStock rule book? what do they do to adjust indexes? And how does their system work better than the NHRA system? I've been hearing people post on here and Facebook for a while that we should dump NHRA and make the switch, but other than me seeing maybe 20 or 30 cars in a qualifying sheet not really sure of the parody or differences that make them much better.

[denbreeden]

Originally Posted by 1347

Why is NMCA the place to be?

They use an NHRA rulebook correct? Or do they have there own Stock/SuperStock rule book? what do they do to adjust indexes? And how does their system work better than the NHRA system? I've been hearing people post on here and Facebook for a while that we should dump NHRA and make the switch, but other than me seeing maybe 20 or 30 cars in a qualifying sheet not really sure of the parody or differences that make them much better.

They do not use any factoring system and there are no penalties for going fast. They use NHRA rules and IHRA indexes but no punishment for being fast.

[Mike Pearson]

Everyone on this site knows there are some disparities in HP factoring in stock and super stock. There are some soft combos that people have been protecting for a long time. My car is a bad combo. Small cu in and has been hit many times over the years. There are some combos in my class that have 50 more cu in and also a lower HP rating than my combo No amount of hard work and money could get me anywhere near close to that combo. There are others similar that have 25 more Cu In and a lower HP factor. None of this matters to me because I know I cant win class or a heads up against these other combos. I just have to hope that I dont see them in eliminations. In my case I hope the AHFS helps out a bit in that regard. If I was anywhere near striking distance i might spend some more money and try to catch up. No chance of that right now though.

Personally I think mineshaft should be weather related before it is placed into effect. Low temp, low humidity and high Barometer should be the trigger along with stiff tail wind.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by denbreeden

They do not use any factoring system and there are no penalties for going fast. They use NHRA rules and IHRA indexes but no punishment for being fast.

so,... I suppose if somebody found some oddball, obscure combination lurking in the classification guide, that could run 1 1/2 seconds under , right off the bat, everybody would be cool with that never getting checked into? Kinds like years ago,when Glen Tinsley found a SS/GT combo with a Ford 460 4 barrel engine,that was rated at less than 200 HP? Also, does NMCA do teardowns like NHRA, and allow the same superseded and "replacement " parts? If NHRA adds or subtracts HP, does NMCA follow suit?

[1347]

Originally Posted by denbreeden

They do not use any factoring system and there are no penalties for going fast. They use NHRA rules and IHRA indexes but no punishment for being fast.

So how is that good unless you have one of the fast cars, or an obscure combo that you found in the deep depths of the book? Then you can run your car as fast as you want for heads up races without ever having to worry about anything.