Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Race Clean

According a post a couple a weeks ago it was said that the only time a .950 mineshaft rule would come in effect was maybe at Indy.
That show how silly everything with this whole thing is.
Indy that time of year probably has the worst D.A on the curcuit(uncorrected tracks) so what are all doing the rest of the year?
Racers just dont want the A.H.F.S work is my conclusion.

Race Dirty There are several combo's that can go fast enough to get hit with HP. But when you're already not the fastest in the class a wise man would protect their HP rating not to fall even more behind the class big dog. Make sense to you. BP

[Race Clean]

Originally Posted by B Parker

Race Dirty There are several combo's that can go fast enough to get hit with HP. But when you're already not the fastest in the class a wise man would protect their HP rating not to fall even more behind the class big dog. Make sense to you. BP

So how is the system helping you to get closer?

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Race Clean

So how is the system helping you to get closer?

It's not I didn't say it was. At this point it has as much a chance to hurt me as it does to help. At Cecil County last year, I had a first-round heads up. Round one sheet came out late at night and online. Looked at it to see who I had. No heads up. In the morning they called Juniors up and we were next. My friend went and picked up a sheet, but we thought we already knew who we were going to run. He came back and said the ladder changed and we had a heads up first round. Didn't have time to tune all the way. Not sure how much my opponent was able to. If I ran it out I would have been close to 1.20 under. My opponent has the same combo as I do. Could have hurt the combo bad on that one run. BP

[Ryan Horensky]

[QUOTE=B Parker;656255]It's not I didn't say it was. At this point it has as much a chance to hurt me as it does to help. At Cecil County last year, I had a first-round heads up. Round one sheet came out late at night and online. Looked at it to see who I had. No heads up. In the morning they called Juniors up and we were next. My friend went and picked up a sheet, but we thought we already knew who we were going to run. He came back and said the ladder changed and we had a heads up first round. Didn't have time to tune all the way. Not sure how much my opponent was able to. If I ran it out I would have been close to 1.20 under. My opponent has the same combo as I do. Could have hurt the combo bad on that one run. BP[/QUOTE

My fault on the ladder change. I didn’t make it there until Saturday morning. I think I was the only car to show up on Saturday.

Ruin Indy even more? Take away 330/660 ? Really? Why not take away the score boards and the et slip at Indy if you don’t want anyone including the Association to know how fast you are.

Hope that was a joke…..

[B Parker]

In 2019 at Indy there were 43 combos in stock. Not sure how to go back to the archives to see how many combos there were in the 70's and 80's. I would have to guess nowhere near that many. BP

[GTS340]

Originally Posted by B Parker

In 2019 at Indy there were 43 combos in stock. Not sure how to go back to the archives to see how many combos there were in the 70's and 80's. I would have to guess nowhere near that many. BP

I ran 1981 Indy where there were about 180 drivers battling it out for 96 qualifying spots. All class winners got in no matter if they ran the index or not. Out of the 55 or so classes available then (front wheel drive). I bet of the 96 qualifying spots. At least 45 were class winners Bring on AHFS in that atmosphere.

Paul Haszlauer
7019 stock and SS

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Barry Polley

Ruin Indy even more? Take away 330/660 ? Really? Why not take away the score boards and the et slip at Indy if you don’t want anyone including the Association to know how fast you are.

Hope that was a joke…..

Barry unless I'm reading it wrong, they are just not going to look at the 330/660 for HP adjustments. You should still get that info on your time slips.

Originally Posted by B Parker

Barry unless I'm reading it wrong, they are just not going to look at the 330/660 for HP adjustments. You should still get that info on your time slips.

Thanks Barry. So the data will still be available to NHRA?

[Charley Downing]

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter if AHFS is ON or OFF. The Indy experience is all but dead for the SS/STK.

Quotes down from 180 to 140.
INDY bump is no long a real thing. I mean not that long ago there were 50-60 guys that did not get to race per class. At one time it was a privilege and an accomplishment to get to qualify and run eliminations at the U.S. Nationals.

Class money down from $1200-$1000 for a class win now it might be $300 if there are still three sponsors.

Allstars race moving to INDY pushing class and eliminations to an after though.

combos running -1.20 plus under to will class with no penalty

lack of teardown or staff that knows what there looking at. I think there might be 4-5 NHRA staff that actually know how to check a stk or ss car.

Combo class eliminations. This just sucks I will never understand how or why two single need to run each other for a $135 trophy.

no class winner bump in

Not racing on (Labor Day) Monday

These are what has killed the U.S. Nationals for most of us.
Until these things change INDY will never get better for STK/SS. lets Talk about there real issues.