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Old 02-10-2023, 03:05 PM   #1
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it has become more and more apparent that the GREAT NHRA could care less about the SPORTSMAN RACER, worst pits at National Events, lucky to get 2 time runs ,increased entry fees, dropping purses if you win a National Event etc, and now the BS about wraps for contingency payouts, when half the time you dont get paid anyway unless you furnish a receipt of purchase within a 2 year period, tearing off manufacture sticker off face shields on new helmets SAYING IT IS A BLINDER!!!Stupidity at the highest and some dimwit some called Tech man did at Orlando, but never once did they say lets check a few guys to see if they are legal. Just how much worse can this STUPIDITY get?
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Old 02-10-2023, 03:50 PM   #2
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Understand that ATI would not pay me few years ago till they seen a picture of my car with decals, stuff was got directly from them and had all the paper work. told them they need to stop dealing with people if you can't trust them, NHRA workers.
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Old 02-10-2023, 05:16 PM   #3
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I feel sorry for Jeff, but if you go to the contingency program rules, it states they must be the approved decal. Then, rule #1 reads
1. Decal must be exact size and design of company’s contingency decal (36-square-inch
maximum).
we as racers get mad when NHRA doesn't enforce rules, but then we get mad when they do enforce the rules. It just isnt this example, if you go thru different topics and comments, there are others that our opinions flip flop.
I was lucky to get paid for contingency when I won class last year. everyone paid reasonably quick.
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Old 02-11-2023, 08:09 AM   #4
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Understand that ATI would not pay me few years ago till they seen a picture of my car with decals, stuff was got directly from them and had all the paper work. told them they need to stop dealing with people if you can't trust them, NHRA workers.
I had the same problem. I just purchased my converter and balancer about 5 months prior, brand new from them.
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Old 02-11-2023, 10:28 AM   #5
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This rule has been around for years. I won class at Indy and the NHRA tech guy was checking off my stickers and there was one I had to trim to fit on a body panel and he said, "Can't use that one it's not the right size." It is a frustrating rule though.





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Old 02-11-2023, 10:50 AM   #6
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Multi-million dollar companies arguing over $50 here or $100 there. It shouldn't even be worth their time to argue. If you don't want to pay, then don't participate in contingency program.
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Old 02-11-2023, 11:26 AM   #7
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If you want to play the game, you have to follow the rules. Simple as that.
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Old 02-11-2023, 11:51 AM   #8
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Many of the comments display naivety and an ignorance of the onerous contingency program requirements that manufacturers and suppliers are subject to when they select to join the sanctioning body in this respect.

We suggest that you carefully look into the contingency program criteria to fully understand the import.

In terms of the liberal license associated with the branding/exposure of self-designed displays such as wraps, once the mandated design is modified/altered, what value proposition may exist is also a departure from the original intent. Soon the labeling is reduced by twenty five percent and then by fifty.

When you analyze the true nature of brand exposure that is generated here, it's unlikely that you reach a conclusion that this is an effective marketing vehicle based on investment/ROI.

When we consider contingency, the required exposure would create a mandated design that may not fit on your door. Even in that circumstance, there is little gained overall.

Simply display exactly what you are provided regardless of how it is applied.

NHRA TV has helped to an extent with regard to visibility and brand awareness. It remains to be seen how the added exposure impacts product/service demand. What occurs at the racing facility is virtually of no benefit.

I remain somewhat surprised that contingency exists at all.
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Old 02-11-2023, 05:02 PM   #9
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it has become more and more apparent that the GREAT NHRA could care less about the SPORTSMAN RACER, worst pits at National Events, lucky to get 2 time runs ,increased entry fees, dropping purses if you win a National Event etc, and now the BS about wraps for contingency payouts, when half the time you dont get paid anyway unless you furnish a receipt of purchase within a 2 year period, tearing off manufacture sticker off face shields on new helmets SAYING IT IS A BLINDER!!!Stupidity at the highest and some dimwit some called Tech man did at Orlando, but never once did they say lets check a few guys to see if they are legal. Just how much worse can this STUPIDITY get?
Do you actually believe the sh** you write? VMP had awful pits, potholes all over the place the week before a national event. The following week the pits were all smooth. If tracks can't afford to have perfect pits for you then take it up with the track, not NHRA. 2 times runs is all you need, there are tons of weather stations and if you keep data logs you can figure out pretty closely what your car will run. Increased entry fees might contribute to increased insurance costs, just a thought. Tell me one person whose been asked to remove a sticker from their helmet. Lastly, have you seen the skeleton crews at these divisionals? You think they have the time to check out every single car for every single item? What's stupid is knowing something is a rule and not following it, then getting upset when you eventually get caught. And thats not specifically directed towards cars with contingency wraps. Sounds like you should stay home since you hate NHRA so much.
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