Warning on contingency wraps

mrfast · 02-10-2023, 03:50 PM

Understand that ATI would not pay me few years ago till they seen a picture of my car with decals, stuff was got directly from them and had all the paper work. told them they need to stop dealing with people if you can't trust them, NHRA workers.

1347 · 02-10-2023, 05:16 PM

I feel sorry for Jeff, but if you go to the contingency program rules, it states they must be the approved decal. Then, rule #1 reads
1. Decal must be exact size and design of company’s contingency decal (36-square-inch
maximum).
we as racers get mad when NHRA doesn't enforce rules, but then we get mad when they do enforce the rules. It just isnt this example, if you go thru different topics and comments, there are others that our opinions flip flop.
I was lucky to get paid for contingency when I won class last year. everyone paid reasonably quick.

Jon Sarrett · 02-11-2023, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfast

Understand that ATI would not pay me few years ago till they seen a picture of my car with decals, stuff was got directly from them and had all the paper work. told them they need to stop dealing with people if you can't trust them, NHRA workers.

I had the same problem. I just purchased my converter and balancer about 5 months prior, brand new from them.

BRETV · 02-11-2023, 10:28 AM

This rule has been around for years. I won class at Indy and the NHRA tech guy was checking off my stickers and there was one I had to trim to fit on a body panel and he said, "Can't use that one it's not the right size." It is a frustrating rule though.

Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

Chris1529 · 02-11-2023, 10:50 AM

Multi-million dollar companies arguing over $50 here or $100 there. It shouldn't even be worth their time to argue. If you don't want to pay, then don't participate in contingency program.

lstanford · 02-11-2023, 11:26 AM

If you want to play the game, you have to follow the rules. Simple as that.

Paradigm Shift · 02-11-2023, 11:51 AM

Many of the comments display naivety and an ignorance of the onerous contingency program requirements that manufacturers and suppliers are subject to when they select to join the sanctioning body in this respect.

We suggest that you carefully look into the contingency program criteria to fully understand the import.

In terms of the liberal license associated with the branding/exposure of self-designed displays such as wraps, once the mandated design is modified/altered, what value proposition may exist is also a departure from the original intent. Soon the labeling is reduced by twenty five percent and then by fifty.

When you analyze the true nature of brand exposure that is generated here, it's unlikely that you reach a conclusion that this is an effective marketing vehicle based on investment/ROI.

When we consider contingency, the required exposure would create a mandated design that may not fit on your door. Even in that circumstance, there is little gained overall.

Simply display exactly what you are provided regardless of how it is applied.

NHRA TV has helped to an extent with regard to visibility and brand awareness. It remains to be seen how the added exposure impacts product/service demand. What occurs at the racing facility is virtually of no benefit.

I remain somewhat surprised that contingency exists at all.

02-10-2023, 05:16 PM	#2
1347 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe Twp NJ Posts: 501 Likes: 1,029 Liked 988 Times in 272 Posts	Re: Warning on contingency wraps I feel sorry for Jeff, but if you go to the contingency program rules, it states they must be the approved decal. Then, rule #1 reads 1. Decal must be exact size and design of company’s contingency decal (36-square-inch maximum). we as racers get mad when NHRA doesn't enforce rules, but then we get mad when they do enforce the rules. It just isnt this example, if you go thru different topics and comments, there are others that our opinions flip flop. I was lucky to get paid for contingency when I won class last year. everyone paid reasonably quick. __________________ Duane Hoven 1342 SS/GT

02-11-2023, 10:28 AM	#4
BRETV Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 566 Likes: 4,135 Liked 776 Times in 199 Posts	Re: Warning on contingency wraps This rule has been around for years. I won class at Indy and the NHRA tech guy was checking off my stickers and there was one I had to trim to fit on a body panel and he said, "Can't use that one it's not the right size." It is a frustrating rule though. Bret Velde 2003 ??/SA

02-11-2023, 10:50 AM	#5
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Warning on contingency wraps Multi-million dollar companies arguing over $50 here or $100 there. It shouldn't even be worth their time to argue. If you don't want to pay, then don't participate in contingency program. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

02-11-2023, 11:26 AM	#6
lstanford Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 312 Likes: 1 Liked 134 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Warning on contingency wraps If you want to play the game, you have to follow the rules. Simple as that.

02-11-2023, 11:51 AM	#7
Paradigm Shift Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 143 Likes: 3 Liked 80 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Warning on contingency wraps Many of the comments display naivety and an ignorance of the onerous contingency program requirements that manufacturers and suppliers are subject to when they select to join the sanctioning body in this respect. We suggest that you carefully look into the contingency program criteria to fully understand the import. In terms of the liberal license associated with the branding/exposure of self-designed displays such as wraps, once the mandated design is modified/altered, what value proposition may exist is also a departure from the original intent. Soon the labeling is reduced by twenty five percent and then by fifty. When you analyze the true nature of brand exposure that is generated here, it's unlikely that you reach a conclusion that this is an effective marketing vehicle based on investment/ROI. When we consider contingency, the required exposure would create a mandated design that may not fit on your door. Even in that circumstance, there is little gained overall. Simply display exactly what you are provided regardless of how it is applied. NHRA TV has helped to an extent with regard to visibility and brand awareness. It remains to be seen how the added exposure impacts product/service demand. What occurs at the racing facility is virtually of no benefit. I remain somewhat surprised that contingency exists at all.

02-10-2023, 03:50 PM	#1
mrfast Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Warning on contingency wraps Understand that ATI would not pay me few years ago till they seen a picture of my car with decals, stuff was got directly from them and had all the paper work. told them they need to stop dealing with people if you can't trust them, NHRA workers.