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Old 03-24-2023, 03:14 PM   #1
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At the risk of incensing some, I'll ask again.


That's an interesting suggestion. What was the reasoning behind it?
If you have five .700 runs and you make a 1.20 run you will not get HP. The more .700 runs you bank, the more times you can let it hang out. Obviously, that only applies if everyone running your combination follows the same plan....
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Old 03-24-2023, 04:42 PM   #2
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Daren laid out the answer spot on. If you bank your average at .70 under, when you go 1.15 it won’t bite you. If you plan on class racing or winning a heads up in the eliminator and don’t want to move classes next year, then they have laid out how to play the game with their bat, ball, glove and field.
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Old 03-24-2023, 04:53 PM   #3
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Just keep in mind that you need enough .700 runs to cover each fast run that you make...
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Old 03-24-2023, 05:05 PM   #4
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If you have five .700 runs and you make a 1.20 run you will not get HP. The more .700 runs you bank, the more times you can let it hang out. Obviously, that only applies if everyone running your combination follows the same plan....
Good post Daren -- This is the problem with this whole program . Someone has 1or 2 triggers in March already , and they will have to throttle-stop their car the rest of the year, and hope everybody does the same. Doesn't look like a good way to race to me !!! I have no interest to run my car that way.
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Ok, another question. If you can go better than -1.30 which is an instant hit, or go better than -1.15 at will but are unwilling to do it almost anywhere that it counts against the average, then what are you saving it for? I mean your kids I guess can inherit it but if you have the ability to go faster than -1.15 and won't use it unless it's a no AHFS race then when do you intend to use it? Final at Indy in a heads up? We were better off keeping the -1.20 instant hit all along and having NHRA raise the floor from -.350 to -.500 but I realize it was not up to a vote.
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We were better off keeping the -1.20 instant hit all along and having NHRA raise the floor from -.350 to -.500 but I realize it was not up to a vote.
My take on the new -1.30 is that last year there were quite a few 1.20 hits.
If this happens late in the program, the tech guys (the 2-3 that are capable of doing a thorough teardown) , had to stay late for this deal. You can bet they didn't like it.
If they didn't do one, they caught a ration of you know what from the racers
Someone asked for a break, and they got one...Could be wrong but let's see if anyone agrees.
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Ok, another question. If you can go better than -1.30 which is an instant hit, or go better than -1.15 at will but are unwilling to do it almost anywhere that it counts against the average, then what are you saving it for? I mean your kids I guess can inherit it but if you have the ability to go faster than -1.15 and won't use it unless it's a no AHFS race then when do you intend to use it? Final at Indy in a heads up? We were better off keeping the -1.20 instant hit all along and having NHRA raise the floor from -.350 to -.500 but I realize it was not up to a vote.
Rich , A lot of people can go 1.00-1.20 under at No Problen in February,Gainesville or South Georgia in March then struggle to run .90-1.00 under at Topeka in July. What is the right standard? Factoring the weather in is the only way this s—t might ever work and I don’t know that that will help. And I agree with you that we were all better off with the old rules. I think the real problem is that the people who made the decisions on the AHFS revisions don’t understand stock & super stock racers. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

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I agree the changes stink. I liked mineshaft rules too. I think the new platform will hurt a lot worse than the older system did. I think NHRA is going to have to reconsider their stance on the, once you get HP you can never get it back, stance. If not it will have a negative effect on the most populated class at Divisionals.
I think giving a tenth back across the board was also a foolish plan. Some combos got beat up already then to hit them with another tenth on top would have crippled many. So I guess the officials came up with what was the best compromise in their minds.
Good luck all. This season will have lots of triggers by the end of the season for many many combos. I hope nobody gets theirs beat up too bad.
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