I need to apologize!!

[Paradigm Shift]

You may be correct.

It's the lack of due diligence that is at the foundation of my character flaws.

At the risk of incensing some, I'll ask again.


That's an interesting suggestion. What was the reasoning behind it?

[Mike Pearson]

The way I read the review process is if there are 2 runs more than 1 second under the index for a particular combo and platform then an automatic review will happen. If the class average is more than .85 under at the time of the review the combo will receive a HP increase based on the fastest run by that combination. If the class average is less than .85 under then index no HP increase happens. So if you made 2 runs faster than one second under this year you will automatically get a review to check the class average.

[rboyle]

Couple of questions, is Indy going to keep AHFS in this year? If so it would almost certainly get a trigger there at some point. There is plenty of season left though so it's way early to predict who or how many will get a HP increase.
Is the 1969 350/300HP combo that much worse and what parts are different than the 255 version? Point being if it's an intake manifold change and that is not as favorable maybe you can run that combo at the faster races typically,
I don't have a horse in that race anyway

[Doug Hoven]

Originally Posted by rboyle

Couple of questions, is Indy going to keep AHFS in this year? If so it would almost certainly get a trigger there at some point. There is plenty of season left though so it's way early to predict who or how many will get a HP increase.
Is the 1969 350/300HP combo that much worse and what parts are different than the 255 version? Point being if it's an intake manifold change and that is not as favorable maybe you can run that combo at the faster races typically,
I don't have a horse in that race anyway

The 350/300hp uses a different cylinder head. It uses the earlier style head (462, 186, 041 etc.). I'll have a better understanding of 255 vs 300hp after I get my 70 300hp motor together and in the car, hopefully within the upcoming months. One thing I can't seem to understand, as a 69, you can run the 255hp, 300hp, or 70 300hp intake on the car, but as a 70, you're only allowed the 70 intake. There's still a decent number of racers running the 67-68 295hp combo, which is the same as a 300hp except for the intake, but no one seems to be going as fast as the 255hp cars.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift

You may be correct.

It's the lack of due diligence that is at the foundation of my character flaws.

At the risk of incensing some, I'll ask again.


That's an interesting suggestion. What was the reasoning behind it?

If you have five .700 runs and you make a 1.20 run you will not get HP. The more .700 runs you bank, the more times you can let it hang out. Obviously, that only applies if everyone running your combination follows the same plan....

[Paul Wong]

Daren laid out the answer spot on. If you bank your average at .70 under, when you go 1.15 it won’t bite you. If you plan on class racing or winning a heads up in the eliminator and don’t want to move classes next year, then they have laid out how to play the game with their bat, ball, glove and field.

[GUMP]

Just keep in mind that you need enough .700 runs to cover each fast run that you make...

[Bob Sherwood]

Originally Posted by GUMP

If you have five .700 runs and you make a 1.20 run you will not get HP. The more .700 runs you bank, the more times you can let it hang out. Obviously, that only applies if everyone running your combination follows the same plan....

Good post Daren -- This is the problem with this whole program . Someone has 1or 2 triggers in March already , and they will have to throttle-stop their car the rest of the year, and hope everybody does the same. Doesn't look like a good way to race to me !!! I have no interest to run my car that way.

[rboyle]

Ok, another question. If you can go better than -1.30 which is an instant hit, or go better than -1.15 at will but are unwilling to do it almost anywhere that it counts against the average, then what are you saving it for? I mean your kids I guess can inherit it but if you have the ability to go faster than -1.15 and won't use it unless it's a no AHFS race then when do you intend to use it? Final at Indy in a heads up? We were better off keeping the -1.20 instant hit all along and having NHRA raise the floor from -.350 to -.500 but I realize it was not up to a vote.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by rboyle

We were better off keeping the -1.20 instant hit all along and having NHRA raise the floor from -.350 to -.500 but I realize it was not up to a vote.

My take on the new -1.30 is that last year there were quite a few 1.20 hits.
If this happens late in the program, the tech guys (the 2-3 that are capable of doing a thorough teardown) , had to stay late for this deal. You can bet they didn't like it.
If they didn't do one, they caught a ration of you know what from the racers
Someone asked for a break, and they got one...Could be wrong but let's see if anyone agrees.