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Old 02-06-2024, 02:01 PM   #1
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Yeah, can we do that?
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Old 02-06-2024, 06:02 PM   #2
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1320, you can't do what you keyboard & you are in hiding.

As for an entry level class, as been stated; my opinion in order; bracket racing, S/ST, then the slower classes of stock.
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Old 02-06-2024, 06:20 PM   #3
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After reading all the superfluous nonsense of this thread I still believe S/ST is, can and should be the "Entry Level" class. Let's get back to the theme of this thread.

My version of S/ST;
.5 Pro Tree.
10.90 Index.
2800 lbs. minimum.
135 MPH maximum.
NO ELECTRONICS, i.e., Delay Boxes, Throttle Stops, Two Steps or Grids. If I'm forgetting something please let me know.

This will enable beginners to tune their race cars, learn to cut a light and drive the stripe by the seat of their pants and without any enhancements. No mechanical teardowns, but stringent inspection for hidden wiring, also only the basic inspections for compliance and safety.

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Old 02-06-2024, 06:27 PM   #4
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After reading all the superfluous nonsense of this thread I still believe S/ST is, can and should be the "Entry Level" class. Let's get back to the theme of this thread.

My version of S/ST;
.5 Pro Tree.
10.90 Index.
2800 lbs. minimum.
135 MPH maximum.
NO ELECTRONICS, i.e., Delay Boxes, Throttle Stops, Two Steps or Grids. If I'm forgetting something please let me know.

This will enable beginners to tune their race cars, learn to cut a light and drive the stripe by the seat of their pants and without any enhancements. No mechanical teardowns, but stringent inspection for hidden wiring, also only the basic inspections for compliance and safety.
Again, instead of changing rules for a class I run in why don’t you focus on a class you run in?
how about making stock, stock again? wouldn’t that be the easiest entry-level class ever to actually race a stock vehicle?
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Old 02-06-2024, 06:36 PM   #5
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Again, instead of changing rules for a class I run in why don’t you focus on a class you run in?
how about making stock, stock again? wouldn’t that be the easiest entry-level class ever to actually race a stock vehicle?
EXACTLY!

Keith 944…KNOWS!

Again , stock is the entry level class! Anybody can take a stock, production American made car, manufactured by any of the Big 3 and run it in stock eliminator.
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EXACTLY!

Keith 944…KNOWS!

Again , stock is the entry level class! Anybody can take a stock, production American made car, manufactured by any of the Big 3 and run it in stock eliminator.
I disagree, because Stock Eliminator requires an exceptionally level of technical execution and for those that are challenged by this will be at a severe disadvantage.

Oh by the way if it's that easy why don't you show us how it's done?
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Again, it does not in the year 2024 and if my son wants to race stock eliminator we will and I will show you how it’s done!
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I disagree, because Stock Eliminator requires an exceptionally level of technical execution and for those that are challenged by this will be at a severe disadvantage.

Oh by the way if it's that easy why don't you show us how it's done?
So are you saying those of us who run S/ST have no level of technical knowledge by which to execute the intricacies of Stock? Just curious
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how about making stock, stock again? wouldn’t that be the easiest entry-level class ever to actually race a stock vehicle?
Yay! Keith, one of the main "issues" to building an "entry level" Stocker is finding a body for a reasonable price. At least a body that someone other than me would want to build. NHRA needs to somehow get more newer combos in the guide.
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After reading all the superfluous nonsense of this thread I still believe S/ST is, can and should be the "Entry Level" class. Let's get back to the theme of this thread.

My version of S/ST;
.5 Pro Tree.
10.90 Index.
2800 lbs. minimum.
135 MPH maximum.
NO ELECTRONICS, i.e., Delay Boxes, Throttle Stops, Two Steps or Grids. If I'm forgetting something please let me know.

This will enable beginners to tune their race cars, learn to cut a light and drive the stripe by the seat of their pants and without any enhancements. No mechanical teardowns, but stringent inspection for hidden wiring, also only the basic inspections for compliance and safety.
That would kill the class. No beginners are going to show up at Divisionals and especially Nationals for that. The class is what it is! I looked at the National Dragster online this morning and I'll be damned if they didn't refer to SST as an Entry Level Class In their eyes it it at the National level because we don't run for National points. SST is what it has become for a lot of reasons. There was the old rule that you couldn't run SST and another class at the same race. That was always referred to as the (Scotty Rule) as in Scotty Richardson. He kicked a little too much *** back in the day. Now anyone can run SST and Top Fuel at the same time if they want to.
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