Entry level class?

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Says a giant D-bag, a pathetic loser who is only here to bait me,

maybe you are not as dumb as I thought...Nah, you are even dumber than I thought

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Back to the reason for this thread.

Yeah, can we do that?

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by 1700camaro

Never said he did!

Now, it's just "junk"; it was competitive in 2021 & 2022 according to NHRA standings. Pretty sure he was ahead in the standings over your son. Except 1 category them years: with your son only ahead by 2 spots in points.

You bring up 2018, sounds like his "junk" was again competitive. It's not about Chris & your son, it's about your statement; "not competitive and junk". "junk" is your opinion. Competitive, the car is according to the evidence.

A car can be competitive and junk at the same time. His car probably isn't worth 30 or maybe even 20k, but if he can make it work, it's competitive.

[JP1738]

It seems the general consensus is that S/ST is the true entry level class in NHRA div/Nat competition, and I would agree. It's pretty cheap to build a car that can somewhat consistently go 10.90 with or without a T-stop. Now I agree also that some people have gotten carried away with the class and are going 150-160+ for absolutely no other reason than saying they are the fastest slow car at the event. I've seen many many cars win plenty of rounds at <130mph in SST and even a few S/G cars win races at <140. Being fast makes you more competitive, but you can win with $15,000 and some know-how.

[1700camaro]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Shocking , He registered another name, like no one has done that before on an Internet forum.

You should know, you need them to hide.

I don't need, nor have another name here or on other forums. Shocking, I'm sure most members don't need one.

[1320racer]

wrong, I have 1 username here and I don't need to hide, I'm easy to find every weekend from April through October racing at tracks up and down the east coast and east of the Mississippi.

Now take El Duderino aka imakehp aka dave with you and crawl back into your holes from which you two losers think about me and my cars day and night, evident by the fact you're only posting here to bait me.

[Henry S]

Back to the thread title.
Here are my thoughts and opinion on this subject.
In my opinion, Super Street would be more likely to be the entry level class in NHRA Racing on the national level.

My reason is that the NHRA limits Super Street to one National within each division and Super Street does not run for a national championship. Whereas Stock does run for a national championship.

Also, anyone can buy a competitive car whether it be stock, super stock, or super street, the difference is stock and superstock may have to tear down at the track where superstreet does not. Buying a complete car is easy but the driver/owner may not have the skillset to do teardown at the track. This makes those classes a little more than entry level to me

I can speak from experience as I run both Superstreet and Superstock.

[1700camaro]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Back to the reason for this thread.

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Yeah, can we do that?

1320, you can't do what you keyboard & you are in hiding.

As for an entry level class, as been stated; my opinion in order; bracket racing, S/ST, then the slower classes of stock.

[Frank Castros]

After reading all the superfluous nonsense of this thread I still believe S/ST is, can and should be the "Entry Level" class. Let's get back to the theme of this thread.

My version of S/ST;
.5 Pro Tree.
10.90 Index.
2800 lbs. minimum.
135 MPH maximum.
NO ELECTRONICS, i.e., Delay Boxes, Throttle Stops, Two Steps or Grids. If I'm forgetting something please let me know.

This will enable beginners to tune their race cars, learn to cut a light and drive the stripe by the seat of their pants and without any enhancements. No mechanical teardowns, but stringent inspection for hidden wiring, also only the basic inspections for compliance and safety.

[Keith 944]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

After reading all the superfluous nonsense of this thread I still believe S/ST is, can and should be the "Entry Level" class. Let's get back to the theme of this thread.

My version of S/ST;
.5 Pro Tree.
10.90 Index.
2800 lbs. minimum.
135 MPH maximum.
NO ELECTRONICS, i.e., Delay Boxes, Throttle Stops, Two Steps or Grids. If I'm forgetting something please let me know.

This will enable beginners to tune their race cars, learn to cut a light and drive the stripe by the seat of their pants and without any enhancements. No mechanical teardowns, but stringent inspection for hidden wiring, also only the basic inspections for compliance and safety.

Again, instead of changing rules for a class I run in why don’t you focus on a class you run in?
how about making stock, stock again? wouldn’t that be the easiest entry-level class ever to actually race a stock vehicle?