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Old 12-05-2024, 03:17 PM   #1
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Default Re: The end of class racing....again...

[QUOTE=goinbroke2;706427]Here's some posts from 2007;

They have given all our pit area to Motor Homes on both sides of the track, consession trailers, all sorts of tents, passenger cars, golf carts, Pro Mods with lots of room for each, and Alcohol Funny Cars with lots of room for each. There's just not any pit space left for us and the track just won't spend any money to make more.

Now I'm sitting at home with no transportation and my truck, trailer, race car sitting in an old rice field with 6" of water all around and piles of dirt in front of the truck and no telling when I'll be able to get it out, at least I'm not hundreds of miles from home like some.

Nhra took a day of racing away this year and charged us more money to get in and some wonder why the car count is down? I believe it maybe even less in the future.
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They wonder why racers are quitting, after more than 30 years of racing, it just was not fun anymore, miss the racers, don't miss NHRA.....
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NHRA= NOT HELPING RACERS ANYMORE
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NHRA needs to stop the insanity. How did we ever let it get this far? The only thing we S/SS have ever stuck together on was the mufflers and a lot of you didn?t want to sign the petition back then, but Dan and I with a hand full kept pushing the issue. A great division 3 tech man told me it was a done deal, but we did defeat them on that issue, the tech man remained neutral on the issue.
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"Just curious with all these problems with the mistreatment of sportsman racer's at NHRA national events why not just stop racing at them and try racing IHRA instead where stuff like this never happens."

when I can run at least 5 IHRA races within a 8 hr drive then I will consider it
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2 minute search and I can find the EXACT same "the sky is falling" threads from 2007 or farther since this has been going on since what 1972???

When smog stuff hit everyone said "8 to 1 compression, racing is done"
Then FI "racing is done"
Then imports and the exploding fwd's "these are the new muscle replacing the dinosaurs"
Then gas went to $6 per gallon "that's it, racing is done for now"
Then the "RPM Act" "it's all over now"

So what is "todays" reason for the end of racing??
Just curious as I don't have a crisis to panic about today, lol......

I see it as getting better. Perhaps it is just locally, but our local S/SS association went from about 16 cars when I tech'd in 2008 to about 40+ cars now (Thanks Jeff Kempton) and we have a series with real money thanks to John Scotti. We lost one track (PEI) but gained a new one. (Cape Breton)

I view drag racing in general and S/SS in particular as Henry Ford said "if you think you can or if you think you can't...you're right" In other words, I won't be joining the "woe is me" crowd.

So, any GOOD stories about racing to talk about???[/QUOTE


As I hear, racing is a way to make new friends and bond over issues

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Old 12-05-2024, 04:09 PM   #2
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Pleople don't ride horses and buggies like they did 150 years ago, but as far as I can tell, there is still a pretty active equestian community hanging around. I think auto racing is going to outlast most of us.

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Old 12-05-2024, 05:19 PM   #3
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Pleople don't ride horses and buggies like they did 150 years ago, but as far as I can tell, there is still a pretty active equestian community hanging around. I think auto racing is going to outlast most of us.
I agree ^^

Every time there is a slump in car counts there is always a rebound.
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Old 12-05-2024, 06:10 PM   #4
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A big slump in car counts is coming in the next decade that there will be no rebound from!
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Old 12-05-2024, 06:43 PM   #5
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The old saying;
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create bad times
Bad times create strong men...

Ray Dalio also has a book on this called "the fourth turning".

I've always loved Stock but just bracket raced because there is no way I could afford a stocker let alone afford to race a stocker...then I saw the 302 2bbl refactoring and thought, it won't get any easier than that! Just as "everybody is leaving and it's almost gone"...and then I and several other start new builds.... It will never "go away" because there is the demand for it. Will it be NHRA or something else? Who knows but there will be some form of class racing in the future. Maybe A/SE for A/Stock Electric? LOL!!
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Old 12-05-2024, 08:01 PM   #6
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Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event!

That said at some point, sooner than later this will end and before that happens, sponsors will continue to part ways with the NHRA, the contingency program will continue to erode, entry fees will continue to rise while payouts will remain the same or be cut. If this survives beyond 2040, it will be very different than what it is today. Doesn’t matter me, I’ll be be bowing out no later then the end of this decade.

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Old 12-05-2024, 09:23 PM   #7
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Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event!

That said at some point, sooner than later this will end and before that happens, sponsors will continue to part ways with the NHRA, the contingency program will continue to erode, entry fees will continue to rise while payouts will remain the same or be cut. If this survives beyond 2040, it will be very different than what it is today. Doesn?t matter me, I?ll be be bowing out no later then the end of this decade.
Yes, we all know that you can BUY anything you desire. You have made that abundantly clear.. again and again and again. What you fail to realize is that most of us are not impressed. Racing has many many people of wealth and many of modest means. None of that matters to serious racers who actually race. What really matters in racing and in life is character...which clearly you are lacking
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:05 AM   #8
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Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event!
I like the idea of racing for that kind of money, but don't you have to be good enough to win it?

Personally I am not, so I'll keep that 500-800 bucks and race NHRA or locally for a few weeks instead lol. And have fun doing it.
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Doesn’t matter me, I’ll be bowing out no later than the end of this decade.
. Can we get that in writing AND notorized.
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Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event!
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If this is so why do you continue to post on Stock and Super Stock page?
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