The end of class racing....again... - Page 2

1320racer · 12-05-2024, 08:01 PM

Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event!

That said at some point, sooner than later this will end and before that happens, sponsors will continue to part ways with the NHRA, the contingency program will continue to erode, entry fees will continue to rise while payouts will remain the same or be cut. If this survives beyond 2040, it will be very different than what it is today. Doesn’t matter me, I’ll be be bowing out no later then the end of this decade.

El Duderino · 12-05-2024, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event!

That said at some point, sooner than later this will end and before that happens, sponsors will continue to part ways with the NHRA, the contingency program will continue to erode, entry fees will continue to rise while payouts will remain the same or be cut. If this survives beyond 2040, it will be very different than what it is today. Doesn?t matter me, I?ll be be bowing out no later then the end of this decade.

Yes, we all know that you can BUY anything you desire. You have made that abundantly clear.. again and again and again. What you fail to realize is that most of us are not impressed. Racing has many many people of wealth and many of modest means. None of that matters to serious racers who actually race. What really matters in racing and in life is character...which clearly you are lacking

1320racer · 12-05-2024, 10:18 PM

El Douche is back again, aka imakehp aka Dave Kemblowski from DRR a pathetic old man that ain't ever done shyt on the track and no longer races, he had a reputation of being a hack with 1 reviewer referring to him as a "churlish slob" when he owned The Balance Shop in Cali and his only reason for posting on Class Racer is to bait me, having joined this forum on 1-14-24 with 23 of his current 26 posts commenting about me/my replies while he attempts to hide behind a computer screen, scared to own his comments. He's a self proclaimed billy badass that never got respect in the racing community and clearly was bullied in school with that last name.

Further El Douche has never been a serious competitive racer in any class and the fact that his only reason for posting here is me says everything about his character.

JP1738 · 12-06-2024, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event!

I like the idea of racing for that kind of money, but don't you have to be good enough to win it?

Personally I am not, so I'll keep that 500-800 bucks and race NHRA or locally for a few weeks instead lol. And have fun doing it.

goinbroke2 · 12-06-2024, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JP1738

I like the idea of racing for that kind of money, but don't you have to be good enough to win it?

Personally I am not, so I'll keep that 500-800 bucks and race NHRA or locally for a few weeks instead lol. And have fun doing it.

My sentiment exactly, I just want to be out there playing, if I can't get to a national (or even a far away divisional) then I'll save my money and race locally.
But...IF I had the money?...I would travel, a lot. Run all my divisional's and take in races all through the south for winter. New motorhome/trailer/car load up the gaskets and spare parts and stay warm all winter! lol!

And if I HAD that much money, I would certainly be out there with something nicer than what I've got... but I'm not into shiny so a nice clean rust free car from the south would be all I need.

As far as which class? I like being chased and the lower cost of maintenance for a slow car so maybe a clean slow car? (win a couple million in the lottery and buy a nice clean escort stocker that's currently for sale? (that's me, shooting for the stars, lol!!)

MR DERBY CITY · 12-06-2024, 10:46 AM

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Doesn’t matter me, I’ll be bowing out no later than the end of this decade.

. Can we get that in writing AND notorized.

Doug Hoven · 12-06-2024, 11:29 AM

To be honest, I'm not sure when class racing will "end" completely. Toyota has announced that 2025 will be their last season in the Pro categories. I would be more inclined to believe that the Pro classes are going to fizzle out before the sportsman classes. We don't really need manufacturer support to continue racing our classes, but they do. I would think that in the next 10 years, if NHRA politely tells us to "piss off," I'm sure there will be a surge in association races around the country. I am also concerned about the amount of Stock/SS drivers that are, for lack of a better term, going to "age out" in the next 10-15 years, but I don't think it will cause sportsman racing to die instantly. Me personally, I just want to go racing. Whether that means running Stock, Super Stock, Pro ET, No-Box, I'm going to race as long as I can. For what it's worth, even with a Q-jet, a 3 speed, and running C11, the few times I've 1/8 mile raced the nova, it usually repeats within .01 all day.

1320racer · 12-06-2024, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JP1738

I like the idea of racing for that kind of money, but don't you have to be good enough to win it?

Personally I am not, so I'll keep that 500-800 bucks and race NHRA or locally for a few weeks instead lol. And have fun doing it.

What little I know about you and your program, causes me to disagree.

That said, .015 package and better every round will win a lot of races! .020 - 025 packages will win rounds. If you have a car that is deadly, then all you have to do is let go equal to or better than your opponent. Knowing how to drive the strip is advantageous

That said 2, I don’t ever have to leave my home track to race for more $ weekly in a single day competing in the Summit ET Points Series. than a national event pays after sitting there for 4 days or longer.

1320racer · 12-06-2024, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

. Can we get that in writing AND notorized.

You no, my wife yes, already has it

Stan Weiss · 12-06-2024, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

. Can we get that in writing AND notorized.

That really doesn't matter, if he still shows up here regurgitating the same Bullshyt.

Stan

12-05-2024, 08:01 PM	#11
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: The end of class racing....again... Well I can afford to buy a top shelf stocker and race it but chose not too. I rather take that $100k plus and build another dragster or former super stocker that can compete weekly for 5 and 6 figures and race everyday, all day at an event! That said at some point, sooner than later this will end and before that happens, sponsors will continue to part ways with the NHRA, the contingency program will continue to erode, entry fees will continue to rise while payouts will remain the same or be cut. If this survives beyond 2040, it will be very different than what it is today. Doesn’t matter me, I’ll be be bowing out no later then the end of this decade. Last edited by 1320racer; 12-05-2024 at 08:10 PM.

12-05-2024, 10:18 PM	#13
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: The end of class racing....again... El Douche is back again, aka imakehp aka Dave Kemblowski from DRR a pathetic old man that ain't ever done shyt on the track and no longer races, he had a reputation of being a hack with 1 reviewer referring to him as a "churlish slob" when he owned The Balance Shop in Cali and his only reason for posting on Class Racer is to bait me, having joined this forum on 1-14-24 with 23 of his current 26 posts commenting about me/my replies while he attempts to hide behind a computer screen, scared to own his comments. He's a self proclaimed billy badass that never got respect in the racing community and clearly was bullied in school with that last name. Further El Douche has never been a serious competitive racer in any class and the fact that his only reason for posting here is me says everything about his character. Last edited by 1320racer; 12-05-2024 at 10:21 PM.

12-06-2024, 11:29 AM	#17
Doug Hoven Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jersey Posts: 211 Likes: 189 Liked 826 Times in 163 Posts	Re: The end of class racing....again... To be honest, I'm not sure when class racing will "end" completely. Toyota has announced that 2025 will be their last season in the Pro categories. I would be more inclined to believe that the Pro classes are going to fizzle out before the sportsman classes. We don't really need manufacturer support to continue racing our classes, but they do. I would think that in the next 10 years, if NHRA politely tells us to "piss off," I'm sure there will be a surge in association races around the country. I am also concerned about the amount of Stock/SS drivers that are, for lack of a better term, going to "age out" in the next 10-15 years, but I don't think it will cause sportsman racing to die instantly. Me personally, I just want to go racing. Whether that means running Stock, Super Stock, Pro ET, No-Box, I'm going to race as long as I can. For what it's worth, even with a Q-jet, a 3 speed, and running C11, the few times I've 1/8 mile raced the nova, it usually repeats within .01 all day. __________________ 1189 F/SA Defunzalo Racing Enterprises Last edited by Doug Hoven; 12-06-2024 at 11:32 AM.