NHRA Fastest 128 cars

[Ken Miele]

Chad, your beating a dead horse. Its a classic case of the old vs new. I'm kinda closer to the old days, but realize change will happen, and for the most part it is good.

The older timers will soon be gone, including me. Making class racing simpler is not only wise, but it is a necessity if it is to survive.

Is class racing like it use to be, no, but nothing is what it use to be. Life is dynamic and class racing is just a part it. If the rules make you unhappy then you have only 2 choices. Voice your opinion and hope things will change, or find another place to race.

The bump in deal was long over due. Just because its a tradition does not make it equitable.

And contrary to others, I do not believe you have a bias toward slower class cars. Hell I love them, I wish there were more of them.

[Chuck Beach]

Yes you can get a $3500.00 car and go .5 under. Look at #10 qualifier, he drove it to the race on Saturday.

1 4 B/FIA Nick Folk, Durand IL, '99 Camaro 10.457 11.70 -1.243
2 1117 B/FIA Wayne Totaro, Baltimore MD, '02 Firebird 10.524 11.70 -1.176
3 3340 G/SA Chuck Beach, Delaware OH, '68 Barracuda 11.148 12.30 -1.152
4 3474 G/CM Bob Marshall, Columbus OH, '73 Dart 10.887 11.85 -0.963
5 1169 A/FIA Bo Kenney, Manassas VA, '01 Firebird 10.345 11.30 -0.955
6 1922 B/FIA Paul Cambria, Buffalo NY, '00 Camaro 10.745 11.70 -0.955
7 9510 I/CM Scott Macy, Randleman NC, '78 Volare 11.207 12.15 -0.943
8 3118 A/SA Jim Bailey, Mantua OH, '63 Dodge 330 10.433 11.35 -0.917
9 313 D/PS Jeff Ross, Barton OH, '72 Barracuda 12.187 13.10 -0.913

10 1145 HF/SA Wild Bill Collett, Grafton WV, '88 LeSabre 17.700 18.60 -0.900

11 5274 B/FI Brent Darroch, Monaca PA, '94 Camaro 10.757 11.65 -0.893
12 3473 G/CM Craig Marshall, Columbus OH, '73 Dart 10.972 11.85 -0.878
13 1 C/SA Anthony Bertozzi, Ashland VA, '69 Camaro 10.851 11.70 -0.849
14 2 I/CM Michael Beard, Seagrove NC, '80 Volare 11.312 12.15 -0.838
15 368 I/S Denny Hillman, Indianapolis IN, '67 Camaro 11.682 12.50 -0.818
16 3421 B/FIA Dick Kincaid, Canton OH, '98 Firebird 10.889 11.70 -0.811
17 1128 B/FIA Wallace Dent Jr., Charlotte Hall MD, '98 C 10.906 11.70 -0.794
18 1036 H/SA Kevin Anderson, New Oxford PA, '69 Camaro 11.714 12.45 -0.736
19 3423 G/SA Dan Velenosi, Stoney Creek ON, '68 Camaro 11.565 12.30 -0.735
20 1189 B/SA Wes McCracken, Williamsport PA, '70 Camaro 10.825 11.55 -0.725
21 7 B/CM Aaron Allison, Grand Blanc MI, '76 Vega 10.385 11.10 -0.715
22 1676 G/FIA Mick Klacik, Monaca PA, '87 Mustang 12.443 13.15 -0.707
23 113 C/SA John Leach, Baltimore MD, '69 Roadrunner 11.021 11.70 -0.679
24 116 H/CM Terry Knott, Butler PA, '73 Dart 11.328 12.00 -0.672
25 338 A/CM Alex Miller, Mansfield OH, '68 Camaro 10.286 10.95 -0.664
26 504 H/FIA David Mercer, Benton IL, '89 Mustang 12.788 13.45 -0.662
27 5043 C/PS Kim Gallagher, Rillton Pa, '71 Demon 12.137 12.75 -0.613
28 3425 H/FIA Steve Klacik, Aliquippa PA, '88 Mustang 12.845 13.45 -0.605
29 105 J/SA Mike Gardner, Catlett VA, '85 Camaro 12.152 12.75 -0.598
30 1442 F/SA Mark Capellupo, Penfield NY, '70 4-4-2 11.558 12.15 -0.592
31 1029 J/S Jim Henderson, Pittsburgh PA, '65 Malibu 12.089 12.65 -0.561
32 1723 H/SA Randy Butter, Pittsburgh PA, '69 Camaro 11.892 12.45 -0.558
33 312 A/FCM Zac Ross, Barton OH, '00 Avenger 11.028 11.55 -0.522
34 1045 S/GTB Jeffrey Gardiner, Waldorf MD, '86 Cutlass 11.129 11.65 -0.521
35 1416 D/SA Bart Kilraine, Carrolltown PA, '69 Cougar 11.378 11.85 -0.472
36 1366 H/CM Eddie Bolton, Mechanicsville MD, '73 Dart 11.570 12.00 -0.430
37 1010 E/CM Anthony Platania, Rochester NY, '69 Nova 11.127 11.55 -0.423
38 3972 S/GTF Bob Shieff, Chardon OH, '80 Aspen 12.450 12.85 -0.400
39 1648 F/CM Mike Hayek, W. Seneca NY, '79 Malibu Wgn 11.321 11.70 -0.379
40 399 I/CM Lindell Hilling, Troy IL, '55 Bel Air 11.790 12.15 -0.360
41 1529 K/CM Chris Bowman, Grafton WV, '84 Mustang 12.191 12.45 -0.259
42 3438 AA/SA Harley Day, Dellroy OH, '64 Savoy 10.904 11.15 -0.246
43 956 E/FIA Danny Waters Jr., LaGrange NC, '90 Camaro 12.377 12.60 -0.223
44 1112 A/SA Britt Mizia, Carnegie PA, '63 Savoy 11.148 11.35 -0.202
45 360 S/GTE Laverne Eberst, Chardon OH, '80 Volare 12.307 12.50 -0.193
46 1551 A/PS Phil Baldacchino, Hammersley Fork PA, '63 11.912 12.05 -0.138
47 3377 I/SA Joe Marcinowski, N. Royalton OH, '78 Camaro12.464 12.60 -0.136
48 1695 E/CM Dave Erny, Alden NY, '67 Camaro 11.415 11.55 -0.135
49 1059 D/S Terry Confer, Mill Hall PA, '67 Camaro 11.670 11.80 -0.130
50 1882 R/SA Jason Weaver, Saxton PA, '72 Nova 14.274 14.35 -0.076
51 9 D/CM Mike Leopold, Indianapolis IN, '69 Chevelle11.387 11.40 -0.013
52 1417 H/SA Chris Kilraine, Carrolltown PA, '67 Fairla 12.441 12.45 -0.009
53 488B AA/SA Luke Bogacki, Woodville AL, '68 Nova 11.234 11.15 0.084
54 1504 D/CM George Yago, Pittsburgh PA, '86 Camaro 14.434 11.40 3.034
55 1722 A/FIA Paula Cambria, Clarence NY, '94 Camaro 28.000 11.30 16.700

Great job Wild Bill, hope to see your Hemi back at the track soon !!!

[Chad Rhodes]

But, but, but.........thats UN POSSIBLE.

[Ron Ortiz]

Wow Unbelievable. By the way what does the "F" in HF/SA stand for?
No further questions.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA look no "F"

[Jim Wahl]

Gotta agree with Ed on this one! The Buick is a slug!

No Ron the "F" isn't for Foster's, it's for "front" as in FWD.
Jim

[Tim Kish]

What about the suggestion that ONLY class winners should get to run eliminations like the old days. That would make it real class racing, everyone would have to run their A-game regardless of individual class factoring as I know there are combos that in "bracket mode" could still run 1-under consistently while other combos have to be running a quart low and iced to run .8 under in good air (not Indy!!) - those are the guys getting screwed by this rule change. If you want a bracket race go to a bracket race, if you want to earn the right to run for eliminator you should win class. You'd see more diversity of classes than we do know but of course the ultimate down side would probably come down to cubic dollars but that is unavoidable. Added bonus for NHRA - there be fewer cars first round. As it is now most people agree that a faster car has an advantage, hence you see more running. With a few phone calls you and build and A/B/C car that will run 1-under with little/no ingenuity, just a checkbook. That isn't what class racing was built on either.

Now that also brings back performance into the whole equation - the National champion wouldn't just be a really good bracket racer that can afford to travel, he'd have to have one of the baddest cars in the land too because you don't get points if you can't make the show.

The real question to everyone is how much money do you want to spend to race a class car.

The timing of this change is bad as it really only affects Indy and it's marginal that guys that may only have a .6-.8 under car in a lower class can do anything to pick up 3-4 tenths in 6 weeks.

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[Jack Matyas]

All of this may be a moot point -- just looked at Indy entry list -- 56 entered out of 180 that they are willing to take -- even with the fact that only 128 will make it into the field -- it sure doesn't seem the quota will be met -- tommorow grade 4 opens up -- everyone who bitched (opps) that they couldn't get in the field this should be a great opportunity for you..............Sure doesn't look like it will take -86 to qualify this year ! !

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Chuck Beach

Yes you can get a $3500.00 car and go .5 under. Look at #10 qualifier, he drove it to the race on Saturday.

1 4 B/FIA Nick Folk, Durand IL, '99 Camaro 10.457 11.70 -1.243
2 1117 B/FIA Wayne Totaro, Baltimore MD, '02 Firebird 10.524 11.70 -1.176
3 3340 G/SA Chuck Beach, Delaware OH, '68 Barracuda 11.148 12.30 -1.152
4 3474 G/CM Bob Marshall, Columbus OH, '73 Dart 10.887 11.85 -0.963
5 1169 A/FIA Bo Kenney, Manassas VA, '01 Firebird 10.345 11.30 -0.955
6 1922 B/FIA Paul Cambria, Buffalo NY, '00 Camaro 10.745 11.70 -0.955
7 9510 I/CM Scott Macy, Randleman NC, '78 Volare 11.207 12.15 -0.943
8 3118 A/SA Jim Bailey, Mantua OH, '63 Dodge 330 10.433 11.35 -0.917
9 313 D/PS Jeff Ross, Barton OH, '72 Barracuda 12.187 13.10 -0.913

10 1145 HF/SA Wild Bill Collett, Grafton WV, '88 LeSabre 17.700 18.60 -0.900

11 5274 B/FI Brent Darroch, Monaca PA, '94 Camaro 10.757 11.65 -0.893
12 3473 G/CM Craig Marshall, Columbus OH, '73 Dart 10.972 11.85 -0.878
13 1 C/SA Anthony Bertozzi, Ashland VA, '69 Camaro 10.851 11.70 -0.849
14 2 I/CM Michael Beard, Seagrove NC, '80 Volare 11.312 12.15 -0.838
15 368 I/S Denny Hillman, Indianapolis IN, '67 Camaro 11.682 12.50 -0.818
16 3421 B/FIA Dick Kincaid, Canton OH, '98 Firebird 10.889 11.70 -0.811
17 1128 B/FIA Wallace Dent Jr., Charlotte Hall MD, '98 C 10.906 11.70 -0.794
18 1036 H/SA Kevin Anderson, New Oxford PA, '69 Camaro 11.714 12.45 -0.736
19 3423 G/SA Dan Velenosi, Stoney Creek ON, '68 Camaro 11.565 12.30 -0.735
20 1189 B/SA Wes McCracken, Williamsport PA, '70 Camaro 10.825 11.55 -0.725
21 7 B/CM Aaron Allison, Grand Blanc MI, '76 Vega 10.385 11.10 -0.715
22 1676 G/FIA Mick Klacik, Monaca PA, '87 Mustang 12.443 13.15 -0.707
23 113 C/SA John Leach, Baltimore MD, '69 Roadrunner 11.021 11.70 -0.679
24 116 H/CM Terry Knott, Butler PA, '73 Dart 11.328 12.00 -0.672
25 338 A/CM Alex Miller, Mansfield OH, '68 Camaro 10.286 10.95 -0.664
26 504 H/FIA David Mercer, Benton IL, '89 Mustang 12.788 13.45 -0.662
27 5043 C/PS Kim Gallagher, Rillton Pa, '71 Demon 12.137 12.75 -0.613
28 3425 H/FIA Steve Klacik, Aliquippa PA, '88 Mustang 12.845 13.45 -0.605
29 105 J/SA Mike Gardner, Catlett VA, '85 Camaro 12.152 12.75 -0.598
30 1442 F/SA Mark Capellupo, Penfield NY, '70 4-4-2 11.558 12.15 -0.592
31 1029 J/S Jim Henderson, Pittsburgh PA, '65 Malibu 12.089 12.65 -0.561
32 1723 H/SA Randy Butter, Pittsburgh PA, '69 Camaro 11.892 12.45 -0.558
33 312 A/FCM Zac Ross, Barton OH, '00 Avenger 11.028 11.55 -0.522
34 1045 S/GTB Jeffrey Gardiner, Waldorf MD, '86 Cutlass 11.129 11.65 -0.521
35 1416 D/SA Bart Kilraine, Carrolltown PA, '69 Cougar 11.378 11.85 -0.472
36 1366 H/CM Eddie Bolton, Mechanicsville MD, '73 Dart 11.570 12.00 -0.430
37 1010 E/CM Anthony Platania, Rochester NY, '69 Nova 11.127 11.55 -0.423
38 3972 S/GTF Bob Shieff, Chardon OH, '80 Aspen 12.450 12.85 -0.400
39 1648 F/CM Mike Hayek, W. Seneca NY, '79 Malibu Wgn 11.321 11.70 -0.379
40 399 I/CM Lindell Hilling, Troy IL, '55 Bel Air 11.790 12.15 -0.360
41 1529 K/CM Chris Bowman, Grafton WV, '84 Mustang 12.191 12.45 -0.259
42 3438 AA/SA Harley Day, Dellroy OH, '64 Savoy 10.904 11.15 -0.246
43 956 E/FIA Danny Waters Jr., LaGrange NC, '90 Camaro 12.377 12.60 -0.223
44 1112 A/SA Britt Mizia, Carnegie PA, '63 Savoy 11.148 11.35 -0.202
45 360 S/GTE Laverne Eberst, Chardon OH, '80 Volare 12.307 12.50 -0.193
46 1551 A/PS Phil Baldacchino, Hammersley Fork PA, '63 11.912 12.05 -0.138
47 3377 I/SA Joe Marcinowski, N. Royalton OH, '78 Camaro12.464 12.60 -0.136
48 1695 E/CM Dave Erny, Alden NY, '67 Camaro 11.415 11.55 -0.135
49 1059 D/S Terry Confer, Mill Hall PA, '67 Camaro 11.670 11.80 -0.130
50 1882 R/SA Jason Weaver, Saxton PA, '72 Nova 14.274 14.35 -0.076
51 9 D/CM Mike Leopold, Indianapolis IN, '69 Chevelle11.387 11.40 -0.013
52 1417 H/SA Chris Kilraine, Carrolltown PA, '67 Fairla 12.441 12.45 -0.009
53 488B AA/SA Luke Bogacki, Woodville AL, '68 Nova 11.234 11.15 0.084
54 1504 D/CM George Yago, Pittsburgh PA, '86 Camaro 14.434 11.40 3.034
55 1722 A/FIA Paula Cambria, Clarence NY, '94 Camaro 28.000 11.30 16.700

Great job Wild Bill, hope to see your Hemi back at the track soon !!!

Chuck, Glad you brought that up . The only motor in a LeSabre is the 231/155 or 170 V6, according to the NHRA books.

What's the HF/SA break in IHRA? 27.5?
It would have to weigh almost 4500#.

Now I hear he drove it in off the street?

Something's wrong with this picture.

Somebody please enlighten me