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Old 01-18-2009, 04:54 PM   #161
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LOL...Jim. I cant tell you how close I came to buying a '69 HEMI Road Chicken instead of that Corvette for about the same $$$$. Again they were avaliable off the show room floors.
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:07 PM   #162
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Evan, I hope that wasn't directed at me! You're preaching to the choir! I don't remember you standing at my shoulder when I was fighting about 4V 260 Oldsmobiles that weren't built! I have no problem whatsoever with the new Mustangs running Stock. BUT, the technical end of the car must be set and not a work in progress! Hey, NHRA doesn't allow 67 L-88 Corvettes in Stock but they were an RPO option. They allow Hemi Challenger convertibles but they only made 7. The last I looked you can't run a "Hurst AMX" in Stock. Itn't that the same thing? I've been one of Hawks biggest supporters and we won't even get into the whole Shelby thing. In the 60s all of the manufacturers played the game and NHRA stepped in and created a new class for them (S/S and S/SA} in Stock. Goinbroke2, what the hell was that all about? I would love to see all of these cars in Stock. I just want to see their tech specs clearly spelled out and in front of me. I just finished a Top Dragster up in my shop does that qualify me as a manufacturer? ARGH!
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:33 PM   #163
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I don't think it would be so much of a problem if these cars weren't going 138+ on pump gas. I mean come on, that is low-mid 9's! On a 10.90 index!!!
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:48 PM   #164
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It would be cool to see the weight breaks lowered. Maybe getting more of the early muscle cars (in spite of the cost) to do battle with the current and future cars would breathe even more fire back into Stock. There are a number of classes that have combos in them that are very hard to run with but that's what makes most of us work that much harder to either keep up or outrun them.
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:55 PM   #165
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Evan, I hope that wasn't directed at me! You're preaching to the choir! I don't remember you standing at my shoulder when I was fighting about 4V 260 Oldsmobiles that weren't built! I have no problem whatsoever with the new Mustangs running Stock. BUT, the technical end of the car must be set and not a work in progress! Hey, NHRA doesn't allow 67 L-88 Corvettes in Stock but they were an RPO option. They allow Hemi Challenger convertibles but they only made 7. The last I looked you can't run a "Hurst AMX" in Stock. Itn't that the same thing? I've been one of Hawks biggest supporters and we won't even get into the whole Shelby thing. In the 60s all of the manufacturers played the game and NHRA stepped in and created a new class for them (S/S and S/SA} in Stock. Goinbroke2, what the hell was that all about? I would love to see all of these cars in Stock. I just want to see their tech specs clearly spelled out and in front of me. I just finished a Top Dragster up in my shop does that qualify me as a manufacturer? ARGH!
Billy, "argh"?That's a bit harsh for you isn't it?
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Old 01-18-2009, 06:07 PM   #166
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More stocker ink from NHRA than we've seen in years. Look at the FoMoCo contingency.

http://www.nhra.com/content/news/34684.htm


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http://www.nhra.com/content/news/34684.htm

Holy crap! $1000,00 to win a national in a ford?? HELLO!! What is the main gripe here? MONEY! And here is a manufacture stepping back in (which will drag the others in) Paying good money for contingency, pushing exposure of Stock, big names to drive....c'mon guys, seriously, what is the downside? One car that will dominate in heads up until it's factored like lots before it? (and lots to come)

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So a COPO 427 Camaro is a production car, available to the masses? Please. And it is OK to run a '98 LT-1-powered F-body (that never existed)? This is OK. No one seems to be able to answer why when GM "works" the system that it is alright, but Ford is evil for building a car that will bring the company exposure and hopefully sell cars on Monday.

Last time I checked, all the manufacturers played this game in the '60s and '70s. And many racers benefited from this. I can appreciate the hard work and years of research. If a new car came into my class I wouldn't be happy, but guess what, that's racing.

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Yes sir. COPO 9561 went down the Chevrolet production line. There were around 1250 COPO 9561 Camaros built in the 1969 model year with the RPO L-72 427/425 big block. There were a few hundred 1969 model COPO 9561 Chevelles that were built with the RPO L-72 427/425 big block. Also in 1969, there were 69 1969 COPO 9560 Camaros built with the 427/430 ZL-1 engine, on the production line. And in 1967, there were 36 Corvettes built with the RPO L-88 427/430, and sold to the general public, and there were also a fairly large number given to road racers.
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I applaud Ford for stepping up with the contingency money, and not just for their new cars. I sure wish GM would. If they would give me one of those new cobra jets I promise not to bitch anymore.

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mr. Roehrich is correct,all copo cars were production cars all the way,not made in a race shop...
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