Gator class teardowns

[Byron Worner]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Hey, I know nobody would blatantly cheat in D7 or have 5-10 people knowingly help them blatantly cheat either.

Instead of NHRA identifying the "Cheaters" with a DQ and suspension, maybe the racers should identify the "Cheaters" for all to know who they are. At the next race when you see the "Cheater" you can let him/her know how you feel.

[Bernie Cunningham]

Originally Posted by Byron Worner

Instead of NHRA identifying the "Cheaters" with a DQ and suspension, maybe the racers should identify the "Cheaters" for all to know who they are. At the next race when you see the "Cheater" you can let him/her know how you feel.

Holly cow, Byron, are you telling me now that when you catch me with a big block under the hood that you'll kick my azz, bring it on Pennsylvania boy, my hood stays closed from here on out ! LOL
Scary huh?

[Robbie Draughon]

They did p&g my ss/mod car at the gators after first round eliminations.

[Byron Worner]

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham

Holly cow, Byron, are you telling me now that when you catch me with a big block under the hood that you'll kick my azz, bring it on Pennsylvania boy, my hood stays closed from here on out ! LOL
Scary huh?

Damn right Bernie! You better hit the gym before I make it back out there!!!

[farmco r/sa]

Originally Posted by toby lang

hey, i know nobody would blatantly cheat in d7 or have 5-10 people knowingly help them blatantly cheat either.

lmfao ....

[fordteacherguy]

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

With all due respect, there isn't even an entry tech inspection anymore, just a random spot check at some point during qualifying. The tech department appears to have been gutted by budget cuts just like most every other aspect of the company that is representative to the sportsman racer. You actually think there is manpower to do teardown? Simply not happening. If you want to cheat and can somehow feel good about yourself or your accomplishments, now is your time...

There are only two things that keeps cheating off of the race track...integrity or paranoia. The first you don't have to worry about...those who have it carry it all the time ..the second set need the rules in place to keep in line. So we need some simple paranoia back in the rules again...how about ALL WINNERS UNDERGO TECHNICAL INSPECTION! Note...I don't wan't that defined what that means..tear down..maybe..look for electronic goodies...maybe. The argument of "what happens if they don't pass?" can be easily dealt with with simple rule changes. Since NHRA doesn't have the manpower or talent to inspect all class cars for legality in the beginning...at least have the manpower to inspect 1 car at the end. Personally I would rather tear my car down at the end of the race and load it up and put it together at home. Ever leave a race after winning or runner up? You are not going anywhere for hours anyway. BRING BACK PARANOIA! ALL WINNERS UNDERGO TECHNICAL INSPECTION!

[goinbroke2]

Started a long post and realised I was parroting what fordteacherguy said.
So, to recap;
1) ALL WINNERS UNDERGO TECHNICAL INSPECTION
2) "what happens if they don't pass?" rule changes
3) I would rather tear my car down at the end of the race and load it up and put it together at home


I think nhra has thrown up their hands and won't do tear downs unless another racer protests. The benefit for nhra is bare minimal cost to tech, no cost to police the class. Basically show up with your cars to run your little race during our race weekend with your own tech or whatever it is you class guys do. Don't bother us, just feed us $$ for using the track.

I remember seeing clippings of old nhra races (50-60's) where the winner was deemed illegal and lost the trophy so it wouldn't be the first time this has been done.

Sliding more towards the "factory appearing" racing then tight ruled class racing.....

[Frank Bialas]

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

With all due respect, there isn't even an entry tech inspection anymore, just a random spot check at some point during qualifying. The tech department appears to have been gutted by budget cuts just like most every other aspect of the company that is representative to the sportsman racer. You actually think there is manpower to do teardown? Simply not happening. If you want to cheat and can somehow feel good about yourself or your accomplishments, now is your time...

NO RESPECT!!! Was beat in INDY in early rounds by a CHEATER, no names but you know who you are,after tear down he had 5 major infractions and sent home for a year with his late round earnings, while I groped my cooler for a cold one!!! Fair my azz, bad enough I run a mopar with no extra/fancy ENTITLEMENTS from NHRA, just not fun anymore!!! THE LONGER YOU STAY AWAY THE EASIER IT IS TO QUIT!!!

[farmco r/sa]

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

With all due respect, there isn't even an entry tech inspection anymore, just a random spot check at some point during qualifying. The tech department appears to have been gutted by budget cuts just like most every other aspect of the company that is representative to the sportsman racer. You actually think there is manpower to do teardown? Simply not happening. If you want to cheat and can somehow feel good about yourself or your accomplishments, now is your time...

Thanks Dan for your candid honest assesment of the current
state of things. I do not see you comment real often. When you
do it is thought out, worth while and intelligent. Kinda goes with
out saying for a guy who is bumping 100 national event wins.

Makes me sad and depressed. Oddly enough I feel kind of blessed
I was torn down in Topeka kansas nearly 20 years ago when
teardowns were not unusual. With the help of friend and stock
legend Bob Shaw I passed and got the car put back together
succesfully. Felt good about being found legit. Also set a few national
records, torn down with help from other friends as well.

Now wondering do they even weigh or check fuel....??