Gator class teardowns

Toby Lang · 03-22-2017, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

If you want to cheat and can somehow feel good about yourself or your accomplishments, now is your time...

Hey, I know nobody would blatantly cheat in D7 or have 5-10 people knowingly help them blatantly cheat either.

Casey Miles · 03-22-2017, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Hey, I know nobody would blatantly cheat in D7 or have 5-10 people knowingly help them blatantly cheat either.

This not about anybody cheating, it's about NHRA keeping integrity in the sport, which everybody who races with a membership paid for. NHRA is too easily let off the hook because of their claim of man power.

Casey Miles
248H

Byron Worner · 03-23-2017, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Hey, I know nobody would blatantly cheat in D7 or have 5-10 people knowingly help them blatantly cheat either.

Instead of NHRA identifying the "Cheaters" with a DQ and suspension, maybe the racers should identify the "Cheaters" for all to know who they are. At the next race when you see the "Cheater" you can let him/her know how you feel.

Bernie Cunningham · 03-24-2017, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Byron Worner

Instead of NHRA identifying the "Cheaters" with a DQ and suspension, maybe the racers should identify the "Cheaters" for all to know who they are. At the next race when you see the "Cheater" you can let him/her know how you feel.

Holly cow, Byron, are you telling me now that when you catch me with a big block under the hood that you'll kick my azz, bring it on Pennsylvania boy, my hood stays closed from here on out ! LOL
Scary huh?

Robbie Draughon · 03-24-2017, 02:20 PM

They did p&g my ss/mod car at the gators after first round eliminations.

Byron Worner · 03-25-2017, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham

Holly cow, Byron, are you telling me now that when you catch me with a big block under the hood that you'll kick my azz, bring it on Pennsylvania boy, my hood stays closed from here on out ! LOL
Scary huh?

Damn right Bernie! You better hit the gym before I make it back out there!!!

Wade Mahaffey · 04-03-2017, 10:13 PM

Sorry, double post

Wade Mahaffey · 04-03-2017, 10:32 PM

Now I don't have a dog in the fight, but I do have a puppy that I'm growing to be in the fight. I will be just a rookie in the Super/Stock thing, but it seems to me that one of the main issues of the NHRA folks, is they won't run IHRA because of the policing of the class rules on cars. Now it seems that NHRA is slipping down to IHRA tear down status. Does that mean that some will now come over to IHRA?
Check this out:
And second, why couldn't they "tech mark" engine components, to be checked later on the winners of heads up runs only in the eliminator. They could do that on a case by case basis. In other words, If a race was decided by something other than horsepower (where both cars ran full to the stripe), i.e. red light, cross the center line, obviously spun the tire, etc. in which case a car would not be marked because the run was obviously compromised, and not due to one car being faster. Now, if the two cars had a good pass together, the loser could wave the marking should they desire. But if the loser wanted the car marked, and then torn down and checked at the end of the day... should the winner be illegal, then the loser of the heads up run must be checked in the same way... and if found to be in compliance.... the original winner of the heads up that was dirty pays 5K to the loser, who after all... should have continued in eliminations, but was pushed out by an illegal entry. If the loser was dirty in the same way as the dirty winner, the winner pays nothing, and both are checked before the next race. If there's no heads up runs, the barn stays empty. Because it's a dial in race at that point anyway. Cheaters would think twice about it, if it would cost them 5K if caught out of compliance by NHRA rules. And the loser would think twice before protesting the winner, because he would have to come down as well, should the winner be dirty....to be declared legal and claim the 5K

Wade Mahaffey

Ed Carpenter · 04-03-2017, 11:30 PM

When we first started in SS in 2007 cars got torn down all the time. Slowly it has dwindled to nada at divisional events.........In the fall were gonna try to set the SS/H record. I'm assuming well.be torn down......😉

kansas stocker · 04-04-2017, 10:18 AM

With what it costs to enter a national event and what is paid back, it looks like there is plenty of money to pay for tech.
Pete

03-24-2017, 02:20 PM	#5
Robbie Draughon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 77 Likes: 14 Liked 29 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Gator class teardowns They did p&g my ss/mod car at the gators after first round eliminations. __________________ SS/AM 2917

04-03-2017, 10:13 PM	#7
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Gator class teardowns Sorry, double post Last edited by Wade Mahaffey; 04-03-2017 at 10:37 PM. Reason: double post

04-03-2017, 10:32 PM	#8
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Gator class teardowns Now I don't have a dog in the fight, but I do have a puppy that I'm growing to be in the fight. I will be just a rookie in the Super/Stock thing, but it seems to me that one of the main issues of the NHRA folks, is they won't run IHRA because of the policing of the class rules on cars. Now it seems that NHRA is slipping down to IHRA tear down status. Does that mean that some will now come over to IHRA? Check this out: And second, why couldn't they "tech mark" engine components, to be checked later on the winners of heads up runs only in the eliminator. They could do that on a case by case basis. In other words, If a race was decided by something other than horsepower (where both cars ran full to the stripe), i.e. red light, cross the center line, obviously spun the tire, etc. in which case a car would not be marked because the run was obviously compromised, and not due to one car being faster. Now, if the two cars had a good pass together, the loser could wave the marking should they desire. But if the loser wanted the car marked, and then torn down and checked at the end of the day... should the winner be illegal, then the loser of the heads up run must be checked in the same way... and if found to be in compliance.... the original winner of the heads up that was dirty pays 5K to the loser, who after all... should have continued in eliminations, but was pushed out by an illegal entry. If the loser was dirty in the same way as the dirty winner, the winner pays nothing, and both are checked before the next race. If there's no heads up runs, the barn stays empty. Because it's a dial in race at that point anyway. Cheaters would think twice about it, if it would cost them 5K if caught out of compliance by NHRA rules. And the loser would think twice before protesting the winner, because he would have to come down as well, should the winner be dirty....to be declared legal and claim the 5K Wade Mahaffey

04-03-2017, 11:30 PM	#9
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,710 Likes: 187 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Gator class teardowns When we first started in SS in 2007 cars got torn down all the time. Slowly it has dwindled to nada at divisional events.........In the fall were gonna try to set the SS/H record. I'm assuming well.be torn down......😉 __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

04-04-2017, 10:18 AM	#10
kansas stocker Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kansas Posts: 237 Likes: 524 Liked 250 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Gator class teardowns With what it costs to enter a national event and what is paid back, it looks like there is plenty of money to pay for tech. Pete