Indy Quota

[Pistol Pete]

Originally Posted by B Parker

To both James and Pete I will gladly give you a hamburger today if you would pay for it tomorrow. How many are old enough to remember that one. I'm going to try to make Atco are either one of you going? BP

Wimpy from Popeye said that quote.
You can give my burger to my brother, but i might come up in Sept.
for s/ss race at Atco.

[jmcarter]

Topped only by Belushi’s “cheeseburger-cheeseburger-cheeseburger”

[Bobby Fazio]

Basically racer X can get in Indy with one grade point, so he or she takes the bogus combo out of the trailer to hit one national open a year then go to indy and qualify at the top. Something about that just seems "unfair?" Sorry I hate to use that word.

Originally Posted by B Parker

If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. BP

That is why I believe Indy is where it is needed the most.

Originally Posted by Cotten

In my opinion there has to be a venue to let all the cars run to their potential, and what better place than "the big go".

I thought that's what National Opens were for.

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

So, you would have 128 or more, trying to qualify or win class at the biggest race of the year, yet trying to work the system at the same time , inside a two tenths window.

Yes, if you think you can actually pull that off. Again proving that is why this system was basically created for this event, one where everyone has to run as fast as they can or are capable of, just to make the field and/or win class.

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I agree with NHRA on this one, (which may sound strange to some of you).
I believe it's a great idea to suspend the charade and the joke for Indy

I have to disagree because I think it is turning this prestigious event into somewhat of a joke.

Originally Posted by B Parker

So James and Cooter Lets say you get your cars flying and all the stars line up right for you at Indy. On blow up mode you can go 1:21 under for class win. And if the AHFS is in place are you really going to do it just for a class trophy. Really, not me and not very many others. Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under. If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. You think anyone would want to ruin their combo for a class trophy and a trip to the barn. BP

Yes, I do believe some racers would not care about their combo getting hit to win class at Indy. Especially a bucket list racer like me who may hit that event once or twice in my life. And at national events with only 50 cars it's not likely you will ever have to "turn it up." They are all-run situations so there is no need to go fast to make the field and if there is a heads-up you try to go .99 under for the win. So basically proving my point a third time that this system needs to be in place at Indy, where 30+ cars aren't making the show.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio

Basically racer X can get in Indy with one grade point, so he or she takes the bogus combo out of the trailer to hit one national open a year then go to indy and qualify at the top. Something about that just seems "unfair?" Sorry I hate to use that word.



That is why I believe Indy is where it is needed the most.



I thought that's what National Opens were for.



Yes, if you think you can actually pull that off. Again proving that is why this system was basically created for this event, one where everyone has to run as fast as they can or are capable of, just to make the field and/or win class.



I have to disagree because I think it is turning this prestigious event into somewhat of a joke.



Yes, I do believe some racers would not care about their combo getting hit to win class at Indy. Especially a bucket list racer like me who may hit that event once or twice in my life. And at national events with only 50 cars it's not likely you will ever have to "turn it up." They are all-run situations so there is no need to go fast to make the field and if there is a heads-up you try to go .99 under for the win. So basically proving my point a third time that this system needs to be in place at Indy, where 30+ cars aren't making the show.

Ya know kid, yer makin' a lot of sense here. Maybe enough (but I doubt it) to convince these 3 old sages of Stock to change their minds.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know kid, yer makin' a lot of sense here. Maybe enough (but I doubt it) to convince these 3 old sages of Stock to change their minds.

If I'm included here, (don't see why not) I'm not convinced yet. I don't see what it's going to accomplish, besides take all the fun out of Indy too.
It's going to be mineshaft anyway. Maybe 1 or 2 cars could hit the 1.20 under instant hit, in a heavily populated class. That would be fun to watch.
Other than that, what??

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio

Basically racer X can get in Indy with one grade point, so he or she takes the bogus combo out of the trailer to hit one national open a year then go to indy and qualify at the top. Something about that just seems "unfair?" Sorry I hate to use that word.


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Two problems here.

By bogus combo, I assume you mean it's not a belly button 302 , 305, 350 car.
For the record here, it's hp/weight. You either pick the best one, or follow the leader, and bubble pack your way through Stock Eliminator..Actually the phrase "bogus combo" is kind of insulting.

Next, it takes about 3600 travel miles to get 6 gp's from PHX. You can figure out the entry fees..Or, you can run the local LODRS., get your g.p. , race our local 6 race series for same day cash, save your vacation time, and round trip it to Indy, which is about the same distance as mentioned earlier.
Once at Indy, you get to run against the best, at the most prestigious race on the circuit, for a few bucks of class money. Pick your poison.
Again , I don't see the problem.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Other than that, what??

Well for one thing, it would let the AHFS work the way that it should. Otherwise, why don't we just get rid of it. We could go back to the old way of someone behind a desk just throwing 5-10 HP shots at Racers that he don't like! I'd like to see Pat C in charge of that!

You know as well or better than I do how this whole thing is getting manipulated and other than counting all runs, at all events, why have it?

I'd be OK with not counting all races IF we had a different standard for different races. No AHFS for Q at Indy BUT AHFS in affect for ALL of class eliminations at Indy? Class at all Points Races and AHFS in affect? Any heads-up race at any event you go -1.00 you get an instant hit? How about we change the -1.20 to -1.00 for all races but Indy? That would straighten things out in a hurry!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Two problems here.

By bogus combo, I assume you mean it's not a belly button 302 , 305, 350 car.
For the record here, it's hp/weight. You either pick the best one, or follow the leader, and bubble pack your way through Stock Eliminator..Actually the phrase "bogus combo" is kind of insulting.

Next, it takes about 3600 travel miles to get 6 gp's from PHX. You can figure out the entry fees..Or, you can run the local LODRS., get your g.p. , race our local 6 race series for same day cash, save your vacation time, and round trip it to Indy, which is about the same distance as mentioned earlier.
Once at Indy, you get to run against the best, at the most prestigious race on the circuit, for a few bucks of class money. Pick your poison.
Again , I don't see the problem.

Mark, don't get into the "bogus combo" B.S.. You of all people should know better than that! Very good "combos" and well thought-out "combos" and undiscovered "combos" aren't the same as "bogus combos" so what are you getting insulted about?

Hey, if you want to NHRA race and don't want to spend the time/money traveling then move to Indiana. "Pick your poison".

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Very good "combos" and well thought-out "combos" and undiscovered "combos" aren't the same as "bogus combos" so what are you getting insulted about?

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I'm insulted because people use all the aforementioned terms synonymously.

Didn't complain about travel distances. Just trying to put a few things in perspective.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

If I'm included here, (don't see why not) I'm not convinced yet. I don't see what it's going to accomplish, besides take all the fun out of Indy too.
It's going to be mineshaft anyway. Maybe 1 or 2 cars could hit the 1.20 under instant hit, in a heavily populated class. That would be fun to watch.
Other than that, what??

Exactly Mark, it's going to be mineshaft so it's not going to really effect anyone except the guy who goes 1.20 under trying to win that trophy and if someone can go that fast at Indy that biotch needs hp! Lol
It's the only way I see the current system ever doing anything except the occasional screw up. Now if someone could come up with a better system that actually works that would be nice also.