Indy Quota

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know kid, yer makin' a lot of sense here. Maybe enough (but I doubt it) to convince these 3 old sages of Stock to change their minds.

If I'm included here, (don't see why not) I'm not convinced yet. I don't see what it's going to accomplish, besides take all the fun out of Indy too.
It's going to be mineshaft anyway. Maybe 1 or 2 cars could hit the 1.20 under instant hit, in a heavily populated class. That would be fun to watch.
Other than that, what??

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Other than that, what??

Well for one thing, it would let the AHFS work the way that it should. Otherwise, why don't we just get rid of it. We could go back to the old way of someone behind a desk just throwing 5-10 HP shots at Racers that he don't like! I'd like to see Pat C in charge of that!

You know as well or better than I do how this whole thing is getting manipulated and other than counting all runs, at all events, why have it?

I'd be OK with not counting all races IF we had a different standard for different races. No AHFS for Q at Indy BUT AHFS in affect for ALL of class eliminations at Indy? Class at all Points Races and AHFS in affect? Any heads-up race at any event you go -1.00 you get an instant hit? How about we change the -1.20 to -1.00 for all races but Indy? That would straighten things out in a hurry!

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

If I'm included here, (don't see why not) I'm not convinced yet. I don't see what it's going to accomplish, besides take all the fun out of Indy too.
It's going to be mineshaft anyway. Maybe 1 or 2 cars could hit the 1.20 under instant hit, in a heavily populated class. That would be fun to watch.
Other than that, what??

Exactly Mark, it's going to be mineshaft so it's not going to really effect anyone except the guy who goes 1.20 under trying to win that trophy and if someone can go that fast at Indy that biotch needs hp! Lol
It's the only way I see the current system ever doing anything except the occasional screw up. Now if someone could come up with a better system that actually works that would be nice also.

[Bob Mulry]

INDY stopped being INDY when the heads up winner of class wasn't automaticly qualified for Stock Eliminator.

CLASS WINNERS and the fastest losers made up the 128 car field.

It's a brave new world out there..

[James Perrone]

I will never forget the first time at Indy me and the boys are pushing my junk to the line and my lovely Wife totally up biased opinion showed up
Karen asks me what is a Ford escort doing racing in stock
I said honey that’s a fast car on the qualifying sheet
Her response was” That’s not a race car I had one of them new Biggest POS ever!”
Can’t argue that. Not a race car.
If you can go 120 or more under at Indy..YOU NEED THE HP HIT..
Common sense required

[B Parker]

So Billy and Bobby I have that combo that's a joke of a car or truck. I can go 1.80 under. I go to Indy with the AHFS still in place and not many of the real cars that can go say 1.30 under there are going to go that fast to get number 1 because of the even more added hp at the 1.30 under. I go 1.50 get my #1 spot at Indy and have my own ego rubbed. Not by me. Now you get your HP. Yes and next year you do it again but this time because of the HP added you can go only 1.50 under for the # 1 spot. Now you get more HP added and this time it hurts and you can only go 1.20 under. Now you take that combo to a real good stock engine builder and you are back right at 1.50 under again. Systems are built and racers will play the system the best we can. So I'll be at Indy God willing and hope I have more than I did last year. I haven't been out much this year but I have tested and been working on my car. B/SA is loaded with some pretty heavy hitters. So load up your cars come to Indy and find out if you can run with the big dogs or if you should have stayed on the porch and wined about it. James Perrone Please come to Indy. We will help you. My brother is no longer a G car.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by B Parker

So Billy and Bobby I have that combo that's a joke of a car or truck. I can go 1.80 under. I go to Indy with the AHFS still in place and not many of the real cars that can go say 1.30 under there are going to go that fast to get number 1 because of the even more added hp at the 1.30 under. I go 1.50 get my #1 spot at Indy and have my own ego rubbed. Not by me. Now you get your HP. Yes and next year you do it again but this time because of the HP added you can go only 1.50 under for the # 1 spot. Now you get more HP added and this time it hurts and you can only go 1.20 under. Now you take that combo to a real good stock engine builder and you are back right at 1.50 under again. Systems are built and racers will play the system the best we can.

So..........Barry, let me get this straight, you run a B/SA car and you're OK with what you said here. The "combo that's a joke of a car or truck" can get away with this at Indy for years with no repercussions and that's OK with you. Have you been checked for a concussion lately? I've got news for you, if you're running B/SA, even with a new Camaro, you're not playing the system very well. But you've apparently got plenty of time and money to throw around so you keep throwing!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

INDY stopped being INDY when the heads up winner of class wasn't automaticly qualified for Stock Eliminator.

CLASS WINNERS and the fastest losers made up the 128 car field.

....The way we were...
Can it be that it was all so simple then, or has time rewritten every line...If we had the chance to do it all again, Tell me, would we ? Could we ? MEMORIES.......Bob, many thanks for the trip down memory lane....

[Kevin Panzino]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

INDY stopped being INDY when the heads up winner of class wasn't automaticly qualified for Stock Eliminator.

CLASS WINNERS and the fastest losers made up the 128 car field.

It's a brave new world out there..

I hear you if your talking about the really old days, where no one had anything other than a real machine. But what about the ‘sort of old’ days, but not that old...where some joke of a 14 second fwd minivan, cavalier, or escort “ wins “ class and gets in, while the bumper dragging real race car that ‘only’ manages .850 under sits on the outside looking in?

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

I hear you if your talking about the really old days, where no one had anything other than a real machine. But what about the ‘sort of old’ days, but not that old...where some joke of a 14 second fwd minivan, cavalier, or escort “ wins “ class and gets in, while the bumper dragging real race car that ‘only’ manages .850 under sits on the outside looking in?

You mean like the entire filled with factory stock cars.

So tell me again about that .85 under real
racecar that couldn't make the field.

I agree with you except substitute Cobra jet or COPO for escort.

Why do you think winning class heads up at INDY shouldn't get you a spot in the eliminate.