What if ? - Page 5

Pistol Pete · 01-14-2009, 06:32 PM

Look at Pistol Pete's post in Solution for our Sport by Pat Joffrion.

Thanks

Roger K Fain · 01-15-2009, 11:07 AM

Pistol Pete,
I haven't been to an NHRA event in ten years. I am a subscriber to ND, but I am seriously considering dropping out of it also. The only way to get their attention is through the bulge in their pants...the one produced by the billfold.

Michael Beard · 01-15-2009, 07:39 PM

This doesn't have to be just a "what if"... Jump in any time, y'all...!

Mike Meier · 01-15-2009, 09:07 PM

I'd like to loan my talents..............but I don't have any.

Robert Swartz · 01-15-2009, 10:20 PM

So, what's being proposed here. Local/Regional congregations of disgruntled racers? Are we looking at making these inclusive, by that I mean using stock and super stock, both NHRA and IHRA cars? I think this would be good, kind of a super S/SS combo type race. I also think allow the .90 cars, both 9.90 and 10.90 but trans brakes being the only electronics. Take away the gimics and it'd be a racer's race again.

Admittedly, I'm far from ready but I will have two cars, our 66 Nova could run the 10.90 class and our 79 Firebird will be a legal IHRA crate motor stocker. I wish we were farther along, would love to be part of this.

Robert Swartz

X-TECH MAN · 01-16-2009, 09:54 AM

I was wondering what some of you thought of running sticks and automatics running together (maybe with a slight weight difference in the lower classes) heads up during the eliminator to #1 cut down on the number of classes to ease the "pain" on manufacturers pay outs...#2 having more heads up runs for a better spectator show????? Also the '90 class guys (and women) have thier own programs with or without the throttle stops. This would be an association for class legal race cars and as the Class Nationals from 8 years ago proved it can be done. The car cout was almost to much to handle without the '90 classes back then. I would also like to have conversations with the group the "Tanker" runs and the Carolina class racers after they are up and running. Im somewhat dimayed that more heavy hitters have not said anything about this. Maybe its because they dont think any idea or program is good unless it comes from the established associations????

Jim Woods · 01-16-2009, 11:24 AM

terry, We are nearing completion on our schedule for 2009. I will be in touch with you asap. I know this is a very do able race . I will help in any way I can.

John Quinn · 01-16-2009, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I was wondering what some of you thought of running sticks and automatics running together (maybe with a slight weight difference in the lower classes) heads up during the eliminator to #1 cut down on the number of classes to ease the "pain" on manufacturers pay outs...#2 having more heads up runs for a better spectator show?????

I'm strongly for more heads up runs. The whole reason I am building a car is to run class heads up. I do not intend to go racing anywhere class runs are not available. I would rather lose heads up than win a bracket race. My racing plan is to go to Pat's race once a year and get into a local heads up class. I don't plan on being very active with any organization that clearly does not want me.

Michael Beard · 01-16-2009, 11:51 AM

There's any number of classes you could combine based on indexes. Granted, some indexes have changed recently, but I put together a spreadsheet a year or two ago that showed all the classes that could be combined. Could be quite a bit of heads-up racing. You could say something like HP/1 = all 11.15 index classes, HP/2 = 11.25, etc. -=shrug=- Since we live and die by it, I'd just call it the HORSEPOWER Series.

That being said, if you're going to do a single stand-alone event this year, I'd suggest just leaving things alone and running it like the US Class Nationals. Since everyone would be there, things could be discussed on how people preferred a multi-race series for 2010 would be run.

442OLDS · 01-16-2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Quinn

I'm strongly for more heads up runs. The whole reason I am building a car is to run class heads up. I do not intend to go racing anywhere class runs are not available. I would rather lose heads up than win a bracket race.

What class are you building your car for?

01-14-2009, 06:32 PM	#41
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01-15-2009, 11:07 AM	#42
Roger K Fain Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clarksburg, WV Posts: 146 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What if ? Pistol Pete, I haven't been to an NHRA event in ten years. I am a subscriber to ND, but I am seriously considering dropping out of it also. The only way to get their attention is through the bulge in their pants...the one produced by the billfold.

01-15-2009, 07:39 PM	#43
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What if ? This doesn't have to be just a "what if"... Jump in any time, y'all...! __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

01-15-2009, 09:07 PM	#44
Mike Meier Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Webster, TX Posts: 317 Likes: 127 Liked 39 Times in 8 Posts	Re: What if ? I'd like to loan my talents..............but I don't have any. __________________ Mike Meier "World's most expensive DF/S" 2007 Chevy Cobalt....because suffering through owning an AMC Stocker wasn't enough

01-15-2009, 10:20 PM	#45
Robert Swartz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nineveh, Indiana Posts: 512 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: What if ? So, what's being proposed here. Local/Regional congregations of disgruntled racers? Are we looking at making these inclusive, by that I mean using stock and super stock, both NHRA and IHRA cars? I think this would be good, kind of a super S/SS combo type race. I also think allow the .90 cars, both 9.90 and 10.90 but trans brakes being the only electronics. Take away the gimics and it'd be a racer's race again. Admittedly, I'm far from ready but I will have two cars, our 66 Nova could run the 10.90 class and our 79 Firebird will be a legal IHRA crate motor stocker. I wish we were farther along, would love to be part of this. Robert Swartz __________________ Robert Swartz - Swartz & Lane 66 Chevy II Pro 95 Achieva EF/SA, 78 Mustang II U/SA (work in progress) #354 stock

01-16-2009, 09:54 AM	#46
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: What if ? I was wondering what some of you thought of running sticks and automatics running together (maybe with a slight weight difference in the lower classes) heads up during the eliminator to #1 cut down on the number of classes to ease the "pain" on manufacturers pay outs...#2 having more heads up runs for a better spectator show????? Also the '90 class guys (and women) have thier own programs with or without the throttle stops. This would be an association for class legal race cars and as the Class Nationals from 8 years ago proved it can be done. The car cout was almost to much to handle without the '90 classes back then. I would also like to have conversations with the group the "Tanker" runs and the Carolina class racers after they are up and running. Im somewhat dimayed that more heavy hitters have not said anything about this. Maybe its because they dont think any idea or program is good unless it comes from the established associations????

01-16-2009, 11:24 AM	#47
Jim Woods Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: celina, ohio Posts: 623 Likes: 4 Liked 12 Times in 7 Posts	Re: What if ? terry, We are nearing completion on our schedule for 2009. I will be in touch with you asap. I know this is a very do able race . I will help in any way I can. __________________ Jim Woods

01-16-2009, 11:51 AM	#49
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What if ? There's any number of classes you could combine based on indexes. Granted, some indexes have changed recently, but I put together a spreadsheet a year or two ago that showed all the classes that could be combined. Could be quite a bit of heads-up racing. You could say something like HP/1 = all 11.15 index classes, HP/2 = 11.25, etc. -=shrug=- Since we live and die by it, I'd just call it the HORSEPOWER Series. That being said, if you're going to do a single stand-alone event this year, I'd suggest just leaving things alone and running it like the US Class Nationals. Since everyone would be there, things could be discussed on how people preferred a multi-race series for 2010 would be run. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS