Boss 302 stocker - Page 2

Dave Turner · 01-20-2009, 02:56 PM

It was many years ago of course, but I believe Arlen Fadely ran a Boss 302 car in stock.

jltefft1 · 01-20-2009, 02:59 PM

Thanks for the responses. I am not "brand loyal" and enjoy watching all the different combinations race and would like to see more diversity. My shop teacher, engage the "way back machine", had a 67 Ford Fairlane Country Squire--roof rack and a 427, When he would send us out for parts for shop class and we got to use the wagon. That thing hauled ***!!. Now I see one running in c/sa? with the wheels in the air. He's passed away now but boy would he be shocked to see that!! Another car that i have never seen is the Boss 429 Mustang. Is it a legal combo? Jim

John Lang · 01-20-2009, 03:58 PM

The current C/SA record is 10.50 held by Richard Pauley, driving a 68 Ford! Set at Las Vegas, Nev. This is as of today in my brand new N.D. Later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, John Lang P.SS Set 11.07.08

Jeff Lee · 01-20-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bsa633

Gene Buell!

I knew that! (Sorry Gene...)

Jeff Lee · 01-20-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

You are mistaken. As named in the last post, it was Gene Buell who set the C/SA record with a 1970 Challenger T/A with a 340-6. The original factors had them in slower classes because they were difficult to make run competitively. But he apparently got it figured out and got factored several times unil the car could actually make C/SA.

Check out a National Dragster from last Summer or so. I believe it was a factored 10.33, but apparently retired/reset last year.

But you are correct about the owners of the pink Challenger running faster with a TQ as a '71 than it did with a 6 pack as a '70.

As for the Boss 302 in Stock, my ex-boss had one in the day and always complained that the Z-28's would always get out quicker and a 1/4 mile just wasn't quite enough to reel them in. (Paul Duzs - York or US 30, or something like that.

I think it's all in the RPM. They both will RPM and the Z-28 302 will have more torque. That's why the Z-28 has always been faster in Stock, more TQ. I know of one Z-28 running solid 10.50's right now. There's no reason a Boss couldn't do the same. As I said, it's all in the clutch being able to handle a really high RPM launch on a 9" slick. High base pressure and high counterweight will not work.
I'll betcha one of those new Mustang bodies have less weight to carry so adjusting weight will be more productive than with an OEM body.

Chris1529 · 01-20-2009, 08:44 PM

I know it is not quite in the same league, but a guy here close to me has a 68 Bronco that he used to dirt drag and now has run in the mud races a couple times. It is a 289 with Boss 302 heads on it.
It was originally built back in the late 70's and has been updated since then. I hate to borrow the line from Dodge, but when you are sitting on a hillside at the fairgrounds and he starts it up, it sounds sweeeet.

what about a 289/271. I think maybe I have only seen one of them run in stock/ss. what is the factor on that engine? Probably a little high to make it a competitive combo?

I can't remember seeing a boss 429 either jltefft1.

dart4forte · 01-20-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

Both the TA and the AAR came with auto trans too. I have owned my AAR for 32 years

and they even came with auto on the column and bench seat

Geerhead55 · 01-21-2009, 12:31 AM

Thanks David and Jeff, for the info on automatic T/As (and AARs too),, thats what I love about this forum. Someone will always come up with the answer we're looking for. My ball of knowledge just got a little bigger.
Danny Durham

David Lee · 01-21-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dart4forte

and they even came with auto on the column and bench seat

My AAR is a bucket seat, auto on the column model. I was able to get it because every wanted the the slap stick models or four speeds. I picked it up in 76 for $1800
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goinbroke2 · 01-21-2009, 07:40 PM

I've got an old mag from 70 or 71 that put the two 302 against each other on the dyno. After changing springs, cam(factory part number cams) headers,etc both were well over 400hp.(a lot back then with a 290hp rating) The chevy nosed over around 7600 or 7800 or something like that and they went on and on about the boss going to 8200 and just wanting more. I forget how high they turned it but with factory internals it was amazing. I think it was SS/DI but might of been Hot Rod or or another generic mag.

01-20-2009, 02:56 PM	#11
Dave Turner VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Schomberg, ON, Canada Posts: 1,222 Likes: 1,606 Liked 364 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Boss 302 stocker It was many years ago of course, but I believe Arlen Fadely ran a Boss 302 car in stock. __________________ Dave Turner SS/GT #1153

01-20-2009, 02:59 PM	#12
jltefft1 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: grand rapids mi Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Boss 302 stocker Thanks for the responses. I am not "brand loyal" and enjoy watching all the different combinations race and would like to see more diversity. My shop teacher, engage the "way back machine", had a 67 Ford Fairlane Country Squire--roof rack and a 427, When he would send us out for parts for shop class and we got to use the wagon. That thing hauled ***!!. Now I see one running in c/sa? with the wheels in the air. He's passed away now but boy would he be shocked to see that!! Another car that i have never seen is the Boss 429 Mustang. Is it a legal combo? Jim

01-20-2009, 03:58 PM	#13
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Boss 302 stocker The current C/SA record is 10.50 held by Richard Pauley, driving a 68 Ford! Set at Las Vegas, Nev. This is as of today in my brand new N.D. Later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, John Lang P.SS Set 11.07.08 __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

01-20-2009, 08:44 PM	#16
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Boss 302 stocker I know it is not quite in the same league, but a guy here close to me has a 68 Bronco that he used to dirt drag and now has run in the mud races a couple times. It is a 289 with Boss 302 heads on it. It was originally built back in the late 70's and has been updated since then. I hate to borrow the line from Dodge, but when you are sitting on a hillside at the fairgrounds and he starts it up, it sounds sweeeet. what about a 289/271. I think maybe I have only seen one of them run in stock/ss. what is the factor on that engine? Probably a little high to make it a competitive combo? I can't remember seeing a boss 429 either jltefft1. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

01-21-2009, 12:31 AM	#18
Geerhead55 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 1,632 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Boss 302 stocker Thanks David and Jeff, for the info on automatic T/As (and AARs too),, thats what I love about this forum. Someone will always come up with the answer we're looking for. My ball of knowledge just got a little bigger. Danny Durham

01-21-2009, 07:40 PM	#20
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 890 Likes: 1,618 Liked 389 Times in 153 Posts	Re: Boss 302 stocker I've got an old mag from 70 or 71 that put the two 302 against each other on the dyno. After changing springs, cam(factory part number cams) headers,etc both were well over 400hp.(a lot back then with a 290hp rating) The chevy nosed over around 7600 or 7800 or something like that and they went on and on about the boss going to 8200 and just wanting more. I forget how high they turned it but with factory internals it was amazing. I think it was SS/DI but might of been Hot Rod or or another generic mag.