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Old 01-21-2009, 07:57 PM   #261
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Ed -- You left out the part where you and your little low buck car with "six in a row" can still win the eliminator .That fact alone should make you happy ! ! !
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:58 PM   #262
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Guys,
I am not suggesting that we should sit on our hands and watch the hammer drop.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:06 PM   #263
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Ed -- You left out the part where you and your little low buck car with "six in a row" can still win the eliminator .That fact alone should make you happy ! ! !
Jack;
It's not about me It's about the eliminator in general and how some selfish racers,a major car company and the
upper management of an organization who lives off the contributions of it's members and sponsors are
running down what we love to do.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:17 PM   #264
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Bad Jack!
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:17 PM   #265
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Ed -- Its really about progress ......even your own car company ( AMC ) were involved in this type of activity in the sixties and seventies -- without this factory involvement were would we be ? Like the man said yesterday -- "Change" ..........seems you're not ready for it .
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:21 PM   #266
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Gee Billy -- I said the words low buck and six in a row in the same sentence and the hairs on the back of your neck are standing straight.......................easy big fella ! ! !
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Take your meds and go to bed Jack.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:50 PM   #268
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I don't blame the racers that are concerned about these cars. I would be too. Bruce mentioned in his first post I believe that these cars don't even have VINs. Kinda funky for a car with no VIN to be able to compete in stock, kinda like an oxymoron if you will. And I do see the importance of the factories getting involved again.

But here is a novel idea for the guys that are concerned. Band together and build one of these cars, and build it to fly everywhere you take it. Set the record with it. Then, after you feel the AHFS has caught up to it, sell it.

You would most likely get most of your money back (what would the Nat'l record holder in AA/S be worth?), you will have evened the playing field so the older cars can compete, and most of all, you will have beaten FoMoCo at their own game. At next year's SEMA show you could really ham it up in front of the Factory Ford guys
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:57 PM   #269
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Ed -- Its really about progress ......even your own car company ( AMC ) were involved in this type of activity in the sixties and seventies -- without this factory involvement were would we be ? Like the man said yesterday -- "Change" ..........seems you're not ready for it .
Jack you're a master of straying from the story.First off AMC never tried to sneak the SS cars into stock.
The new Mustangs actually are rated higher than the older cars.Show me an AMC who had a hp discreptancy as wide as the new Mustangs.All 68-69 390s were 315hp.All 70 390s were 325 except for the Machine that got 15 more.The big 3 were masters at fudging hp figures.
All i'm saying is that if these cars are allowed in Stock AND they are capable of mid 9s at about 140
it will take years to get them adjusted correctly,as you know a crafty drag racer can hide the true potential of their combo.Look at the #s some of the Top/Jr Stock cars run.It's right in NHRAs face and nothing is done about it.End of communication,beam me up.

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Is the motor in the new cobra jet the same motor in the Shelby GT 500? Are the specs the same? The Shelby has a rating of 500hp and the cobra jet is 425. If this is the case how is this not cheating on Fords part. I was at my son's hockey practice last night and one of his teamate's father is an engineer at Ford. I jokingly asked him if he could get me one of the new cobra jets. He said "What is a cobra jet?"
I told him what it was and said it was built at Rousch and had the same motor as the GT 500 but was rated at 425 instead of 500. His comment was " Isn't that cheating"? I don't see any specs on the Shelby motor, maybe someone familiar with them could comment.

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