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Old 01-22-2009, 09:07 PM   #1
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I heard one just made a 8.50 170mph pass!!






Well everybody else is throwing bull**** numbers and causing controversy just for the sake of keeping the panic alive I thought I'd add to it.


If you look at the posts, there are certainly more saying "let them run and then sort them out" than there are screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". And what happens when after 3 passes the u-joints blow because they're too small or some other type crap? What if they can't get them hooked up? We can "what if" all day both ways. "What if, they run really good" or "what if they run really bad". How about "let them run and lets see" like was posted about a thousand posts ago! We WILL find out shortly!

Has anybody else heard of these 800hp numbers, first hand? I'm just curious because I did some searching and can't find that number anywhere.
No, some people are here out of genuine concern. Those guys are just having a decent, civil conversation. What you are doing, or why, I have no idea.

Experience will give you a good idea how much HP can be had. Anyone who's been doing engines for a few years can give a pretty decent estimate, at least fairly accurate.

You can put 1350 series (1 ton truck) u-joints on a chrome moly drive shaft with billet yokes in the new car, just like you can any other stocker. I don't see them blowing u-joints or driveshafts out on the track. Or rear ends. Or transmissions.

They put John Calvert in one, his stuff helps hook a lot of stockers (including our two), I'm sure John can figure it out pretty well. I just don't see John not solving traction issues. At least not for long.

I want the factory cars to race, all of them GM, Ford, and Chrysler. It's good for the sport. The flip side is I do have a serious concern as to them being correctly and accurately factored. I know exactly where Bruce is coming from, and why he started this thread. And that is saying a lot, since Bruce and I don't agree a lot. We've got over 3 years invested in an A and AA car. So when a guy says he's concerned because he may have to race one of the new cars for class, he may have to face it heads up during final eliminations, or he may have to qualify against it, I can understand his concern. The AHFS is notorious for it's deficiencies, and how it can be "gamed". As to trusting NHRA to "do the right thing", well, exactly how often has that happened recently?
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:45 PM   #2
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Well it must have happened recently, the LT-1 was factory rated at 275 in stock, what is it now?
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Well it must have happened recently, the LT-1 was factory rated at 275 in stock, what is it now?
The LT-1, even if you figure they allowed it to be run in 1998 cars ( I wasn't there, never raced one, no dog in that fight), is ten model years old, at the newest. So, how long has it taken? It can take years for the AHFS to correct a combination, if it corrects it at all. That is why people are concerned.
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Alan,
We agree on this one. There are a few guys who always come in on these long threads just to mix things up. But, not one of the nay sayers has yet to offer a reasonable objection for putting these cars in a Factory Experimental class. No one has denied that this car is soft. The Ford guy claims 800 Horsepower. Was the Ford guy lying? I asked Evan if he had ever heard a Ford guy say the same thing, but no word from him. The guys can play with the numbers, here on the site, all they want but they have nothing to offer this discussion. Finally, there is no response from the Ford guys on the CJ's technical issues that are being hammered out in Glendora.

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My old Corvette won't have anything for your car. But I'm going to run it any way. At least until I get the small block finished.
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