Factory experimental

Bruce Noland · 01-23-2009, 09:23 PM

SS/JA,
Smug? Context?

Bruce Noland · 01-23-2009, 09:34 PM

SSJA,
I do believe you are in my thread. You know the deal. Stay out of it if you don't like it. This is about Factory Experimental and not about your writing preferences.

Bruce Noland · 01-23-2009, 10:11 PM

SS/JA,
Don't bother to subject us to any more of your twisted logic. Stay on topic or stay out.

Alan Roehrich · 01-23-2009, 10:21 PM

I don't know everything. Far from it. Never said I did know everything. Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't fall into the neat little category you'd like to put me in.

You may not have seen "a car that hasn't gone down the track yet" cause so much fuss, but I have, several times. And at least 1/2 the time, there was good reason.

No one has said the cars shouldn't have a place to race. What people have said is NHRA has put them in the wrong place.

I want to see them race, and the Challenger, and maybe one day, the Camaro. But no matter who builds it, I want to see it in the class it belongs in. I do not want to see anyone get stuck having to race a car that doesn't belong in their class. The AHFS is ineffective and problematic, so cars that are not properly classified do not get corrected in a timely manner.

Bruce Noland · 01-23-2009, 10:52 PM

Alan,
The new Cobra Jet was run during a private test session today in Arizona. It went below the national record right out of the box. I don't know how far under it went or what the tune up was. But it is a very, very fast race car and worthy of some serious reconsideration by nhra. New cars have been placed in Factory Experimental before and moved to other classes after nhra had some time look them over.

Alan Roehrich · 01-23-2009, 11:37 PM

Bruce, I'm not surprised. Ford and Roush have done a good job on the cars, and picked some good racers to run them. I hope Chrysler and GM do as well as they have. I suppose hoping that NHRA would do as good a job classifying them as Ford and Roush have done building them is asking a little too much though.

I've heard pretty much the same things as you through the grapevine. Between that, and common sense, with a little experience, it's not hard to see what is likely to happen.

Again, I really want to see the cars raced, all of them, regardless of brand, I think new factory blood is good for the sport. As long as the transfusion goes in the correct vein.

bsa633 · 01-24-2009, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushwacker

Buy a Roush or Cobra!!!!!!!!!!

Hell why not change Stock to 2000 and newer cars while were at it...that would make this "the same deal" for almost everyone in the eliminator and also the car-makers dont have to worry getting beat up by "old iron" and helping economy by keeping race-car fabricators and others busy during these hard times!!!

RULER · 01-24-2009, 04:00 AM

The first or worst red light isn't even close to the same thing as what could happen here, sense these new cars are going to affect the AA thru B classes then it should concern these guys, but if you really want to rock the boat then go ahead and kill stock by making all cars be newer than 2000 then poor old Eddy and Bushwacker can feel the pain these guys are going to feel.

Preacher · 01-24-2009, 09:07 AM

Here's a link to an article with pics of John Calvert's new car:

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum/c...tang-1911.html

Preacher · 01-24-2009, 10:22 AM

Here's a video of what looks to be Calvert's car:

01-23-2009, 09:23 PM	#1
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental SS/JA, Smug? Context? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-23-2009, 09:34 PM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental SSJA, I do believe you are in my thread. You know the deal. Stay out of it if you don't like it. This is about Factory Experimental and not about your writing preferences. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-23-2009, 10:11 PM	#3
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental SS/JA, Don't bother to subject us to any more of your twisted logic. Stay on topic or stay out. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-23-2009, 10:21 PM	#4
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,144 Likes: 1,623 Liked 1,953 Times in 439 Posts	Re: Factory experimental I don't know everything. Far from it. Never said I did know everything. Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't fall into the neat little category you'd like to put me in. You may not have seen "a car that hasn't gone down the track yet" cause so much fuss, but I have, several times. And at least 1/2 the time, there was good reason. No one has said the cars shouldn't have a place to race. What people have said is NHRA has put them in the wrong place. I want to see them race, and the Challenger, and maybe one day, the Camaro. But no matter who builds it, I want to see it in the class it belongs in. I do not want to see anyone get stuck having to race a car that doesn't belong in their class. The AHFS is ineffective and problematic, so cars that are not properly classified do not get corrected in a timely manner. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

01-23-2009, 10:52 PM	#5
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Alan, The new Cobra Jet was run during a private test session today in Arizona. It went below the national record right out of the box. I don't know how far under it went or what the tune up was. But it is a very, very fast race car and worthy of some serious reconsideration by nhra. New cars have been placed in Factory Experimental before and moved to other classes after nhra had some time look them over. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-23-2009, 11:37 PM	#6
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,144 Likes: 1,623 Liked 1,953 Times in 439 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Bruce, I'm not surprised. Ford and Roush have done a good job on the cars, and picked some good racers to run them. I hope Chrysler and GM do as well as they have. I suppose hoping that NHRA would do as good a job classifying them as Ford and Roush have done building them is asking a little too much though. I've heard pretty much the same things as you through the grapevine. Between that, and common sense, with a little experience, it's not hard to see what is likely to happen. Again, I really want to see the cars raced, all of them, regardless of brand, I think new factory blood is good for the sport. As long as the transfusion goes in the correct vein. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

01-24-2009, 04:00 AM	#8
RULER Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 222 Likes: 15 Liked 58 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Factory experimental The first or worst red light isn't even close to the same thing as what could happen here, sense these new cars are going to affect the AA thru B classes then it should concern these guys, but if you really want to rock the boat then go ahead and kill stock by making all cars be newer than 2000 then poor old Eddy and Bushwacker can feel the pain these guys are going to feel.

01-24-2009, 09:07 AM	#9
Preacher Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Here's a link to an article with pics of John Calvert's new car: http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum/c...tang-1911.html

01-24-2009, 10:22 AM	#10
Preacher Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Here's a video of what looks to be Calvert's car: