Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets?

X-TECH MAN · 01-31-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McCue

Tom they were available with a automatic. There was aoption on the 1970 Z28 for an automatic, however, there were non produced.

WRONG ! I owned one for a short while and so did my best friend. We bought them NEW off the showroom floor. One was white with black stripes. The other was RED with black stripes. Turbo 400's with 350 cu. inches and they were 1970 Z-28's

Doug McCue · 01-31-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

WRONG ! I owned one for a short while and so did my best friend. We bought them NEW off the showroom floor. One was white with black stripes. The other was RED with black stripes. Turbo 400's with 350 cu. inches and they were 1970 Z-28's

cool the chevrolet book that I was quoting is wrong, was there ever a 454 put into a 1970/19701/2?

X-TECH MAN · 02-02-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug McCue

cool the chevrolet book that I was quoting is wrong, was there ever a 454 put into a 1970/19701/2?

Not by GM......Motion Performance out of NY did several.

63corvette · 02-02-2009, 01:20 PM

Back in the late 60's all the solid lifter engines (except in Corvette) was not listed in hardly any of the GM order info. You had to know the dealer rep and get a special order form called Central Office Production Order COPO. Some dealers would not even order from this or couldn't I am not sure which. You had to dealer shop for someone who would get you what you wanted.
I bought mine from Ted Simmions Chevrolet in McClean TX. Ted would get you whatever you wanted. It was a small town dealership on I-40, which is now long closed.
Its been 40 years ago but I did help fill out the order on my purchase for a 69 and then later for a 70 model both with the 396 375 HP option engine and it was a write in code not on the order form. The 69 was with a automatic and the 70 model was with a 4 speed. If we could have come up with the right code I guess we could have ordered the 427 but we did not have the coding for that. Ted had the coding for the listing Special High Performance 396 - 375 HP.
I actually owned both of these.
Wish I still had them.

mike raddish · 02-02-2009, 11:45 PM

It took me 3 different dealers in the AkronOhio area to finally find one that would order me a 68 Chevelle with a 396-375 with the aluminum head option. First 2 dealers didn't even have the iron headed option 375 in their order books. Most dealers didn't want to fool around with any hi-perf. options. Could have bought a 68 vette from Motion-Baldwin loaded 427-L88 m22 4:88 for 6800.00. The Chevelle was 3010.00. My friend bought the exact same options m22,4:88 375 in a Camaro for 110. more because of the front disc brake mandantory option. We bought L-88 short blocks for 1150.00 Now you can't buy a hemi block for under 2500. and that is being produced in China.

63corvette · 02-03-2009, 12:00 AM

I was thinking about this today trying to remember what I paid for each.
I believe the 69 was about $2900. I know it was less than $3000 for a brand new car!!!
Hard to believe. I do remember it did not get built before the strike in late 68 when it was ordered. I do remember the date I picked it up. It was January 23, 1969 when I drove it away. I was in my cousins wedding that day also and he is still married to the same gal. It must have been a good day.
The 1970 model cost about $3300 if I remember correctly. I thought the price increase in one year was outrageous but I still ordered and got it in about a month after it was ordered.
Both of those cars were fun and I have a lot of memories with them.
Just wish I still owned them but back then they were just not that special except for the solid lifter engines. There were lots of muscle cars around and lots of street racing going on.
The Good Ole Days

FED 387 · 02-03-2009, 12:11 AM

I bought a Bllack/Black 69 Nova with the L89 engine ,4 speed, 488 rear NO radio nothing NO extras plain jane button hub caps NO SS pkg new for if I remember right about $2900 + tax and my brother bought a 69 Chevelle 300 deluxe 2 dr sedan same way for about the same $$$--He sold that car in 1999 for $20,000-- I sold my car to a racer from Alabama in 1995 for $18000 and a 89 Caprice--Mine had 7000 yep 7 Thousand miles on it never saw rain or snow sat inside all winter in a heated garage--Not a mark on it looked like it just left the dealer---Wish I still had that car bought an apartment building with the money--Comp 387

Troy Henderson · 02-04-2009, 10:45 AM

Saw this on Competitionplus.

http://teamjdmvideo.vidiac.com/video...990023d572.htm

They state the cars being initially detuned and they will be available soon with a pro-shifted trans by Liberty. Wow.

Dan Bennett · 02-04-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FED 387

I bought a Bllack/Black 69 Nova with the L89 engine ,4 speed, 488 rear NO radio nothing NO extras plain jane button hub caps NO SS pkg new for if I remember right about $2900 + tax and my brother bought a 69 Chevelle 300 deluxe 2 dr sedan same way for about the same $$$--He sold that car in 1999 for $20,000-- I sold my car to a racer from Alabama in 1995 for $18000 and a 89 Caprice--Mine had 7000 yep 7 Thousand miles on it never saw rain or snow sat inside all winter in a heated garage--Not a mark on it looked like it just left the dealer---Wish I still had that car bought an apartment building with the money--Comp 387

Was your brother's car Hugger Orange? If so, it's close to being my all-time dream musclecar. I saw the car right about the time you said your brother sold it.

Another poster mentioned the delayed model introduction due to the strike, and that's what I had always heard. But recently, I came across something stating that the delay was actually corporate politics (and CYA) trying to cover up a huge mistake made by Fisher Body.

The story said that the car design was approved by everyone but when it came time to actually stamp out some of the severe contours of the body (I'm thinking of the tight curve around the headlight, for instance) that Fisher Body found that their calculations were off and there were either big wrinkles or torn metal when they tried to actually produce the parts. According to the story I saw, the delay was actually due to a frantic re-design and apparently caused some shortened careers at GM.

Tom P · 02-05-2009, 04:18 PM

By the way... after reading the long Chevy "hijack" can't a Motion car be applied for inclusion in Stock and SS? I thought the NHRA ruling on the Cobra Jets and Challengers paved the way for that.

Y'know a Motion 454 Vega with a Tunnel rammed LS7 might stand a chance against Fords!

02-02-2009, 01:20 PM	#4
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 554 Likes: 128 Liked 362 Times in 105 Posts	Re: Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets? Back in the late 60's all the solid lifter engines (except in Corvette) was not listed in hardly any of the GM order info. You had to know the dealer rep and get a special order form called Central Office Production Order COPO. Some dealers would not even order from this or couldn't I am not sure which. You had to dealer shop for someone who would get you what you wanted. I bought mine from Ted Simmions Chevrolet in McClean TX. Ted would get you whatever you wanted. It was a small town dealership on I-40, which is now long closed. Its been 40 years ago but I did help fill out the order on my purchase for a 69 and then later for a 70 model both with the 396 375 HP option engine and it was a write in code not on the order form. The 69 was with a automatic and the 70 model was with a 4 speed. If we could have come up with the right code I guess we could have ordered the 427 but we did not have the coding for that. Ted had the coding for the listing Special High Performance 396 - 375 HP. I actually owned both of these. Wish I still had them.

02-02-2009, 11:45 PM	#5
mike raddish Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: mogadore Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets? It took me 3 different dealers in the AkronOhio area to finally find one that would order me a 68 Chevelle with a 396-375 with the aluminum head option. First 2 dealers didn't even have the iron headed option 375 in their order books. Most dealers didn't want to fool around with any hi-perf. options. Could have bought a 68 vette from Motion-Baldwin loaded 427-L88 m22 4:88 for 6800.00. The Chevelle was 3010.00. My friend bought the exact same options m22,4:88 375 in a Camaro for 110. more because of the front disc brake mandantory option. We bought L-88 short blocks for 1150.00 Now you can't buy a hemi block for under 2500. and that is being produced in China.

02-03-2009, 12:00 AM	#6
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 554 Likes: 128 Liked 362 Times in 105 Posts	Re: Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets? I was thinking about this today trying to remember what I paid for each. I believe the 69 was about $2900. I know it was less than $3000 for a brand new car!!! Hard to believe. I do remember it did not get built before the strike in late 68 when it was ordered. I do remember the date I picked it up. It was January 23, 1969 when I drove it away. I was in my cousins wedding that day also and he is still married to the same gal. It must have been a good day. The 1970 model cost about $3300 if I remember correctly. I thought the price increase in one year was outrageous but I still ordered and got it in about a month after it was ordered. Both of those cars were fun and I have a lot of memories with them. Just wish I still owned them but back then they were just not that special except for the solid lifter engines. There were lots of muscle cars around and lots of street racing going on. The Good Ole Days

02-03-2009, 12:11 AM	#7
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,429 Likes: 567 Liked 336 Times in 183 Posts	Re: Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets? I bought a Bllack/Black 69 Nova with the L89 engine ,4 speed, 488 rear NO radio nothing NO extras plain jane button hub caps NO SS pkg new for if I remember right about $2900 + tax and my brother bought a 69 Chevelle 300 deluxe 2 dr sedan same way for about the same $$$--He sold that car in 1999 for $20,000-- I sold my car to a racer from Alabama in 1995 for $18000 and a 89 Caprice--Mine had 7000 yep 7 Thousand miles on it never saw rain or snow sat inside all winter in a heated garage--Not a mark on it looked like it just left the dealer---Wish I still had that car bought an apartment building with the money--Comp 387

02-04-2009, 10:45 AM	#8
Troy Henderson Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 413 Likes: 128 Liked 130 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets? Saw this on Competitionplus. http://teamjdmvideo.vidiac.com/video...990023d572.htm They state the cars being initially detuned and they will be available soon with a pro-shifted trans by Liberty. Wow. __________________ Troy Henderson Henderson Race Shop LLC 816-520-5389 www.hendersonraceshop.com

02-05-2009, 04:18 PM	#10
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets? By the way... after reading the long Chevy "hijack" can't a Motion car be applied for inclusion in Stock and SS? I thought the NHRA ruling on the Cobra Jets and Challengers paved the way for that. Y'know a Motion 454 Vega with a Tunnel rammed LS7 might stand a chance against Fords!