2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock

ss3845 · 02-10-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by junior barns

Street legal!

You can add all you want to a car and still be able to drive on the street (except headers) as long as it has a ser# and insured!

What is your point?

I may be wrong but I thought NHRA rules were all vehicle had to be available to the public with a minimum # sold with vin #'s??

Can this vehicle be ordered straight from the manufacturer with this same set up (engine, trans, etc)??

I thought he made his point pretty clear. All Ford did was make the modifications that any racer is going to do to run the car in Stock Eliminator. What difference does it make who does the modifications? Try rereading his post. And reading of the rulebook will answer your other question. You won't find anything about VIN#'s. The fact is NHRA can do whatever they want, when they want and they don't care whether we like it or not. Just ask the SRAC.

junior barns · 02-10-2009, 03:45 PM

ss3845

Did'nt mean to ruffle anybodies feathers. YES NHRA can do anything they want! I agree there is NO difference from someone taking a GT500, doing the mods themselves or getting one already done from the factory or Roush Racing! This car is avail with specs for everything.

My question is can the CJ be bought from the factory bone stock with the (complete) engine that is in these cars? Just a guestion nothing more.

ps I like these cars just dont think they are factored correctly; and, I dont like reading anything from NHRA even the rule book. LOL

Rusty Gillis · 02-10-2009, 04:41 PM

In Dec 1967 Ford build 50 428 Mustangs and than in April 1968 started building them as a regular production option. I hope Ford does the same this time and make it a regular production option.

Evan Smith · 02-10-2009, 04:45 PM

Junior,

All 50 CJ cars (and yes all 50 were built and accounted for as I have photos of nearly all of them being assembled) were available to the public and sold through Ford dealerships. If you had the loot in your suit and got your order in you got one.

Plus, Ford Racing Performance Parts will be offering ALL the necessary parts so anyone can built their own CJ using either a FRPP body-in-white, or any 2005-2009 Mustang body.

Evan

Ed Fernandez · 02-10-2009, 05:20 PM

Evan;
Why was the Mustang that Ford released to you was not allowed to run Stock but the new cars are?
Not busting your balls Just curious why?
And how is the car coming along?
Ed

Superfan1 · 02-10-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Evan;
Why was the Mustang that Ford released to you was not allowed to run Stock but the new cars are?
Not busting your balls Just curious why?
And how is the car coming along?
Ed

Ed, Evan will chime in if I am wrong, but I believe the reason he can't run Stock is because he is building a Shelby GT500 Mustang, which was factory and NHRA rated at 500hp in 2007 and has a weight break of 6.94 in the Classification guide. AA/S is 7.50 - 7.99, but SS/B is 6.50 - 6.99.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1

Ed Fernandez · 02-10-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1

Ed, Evan will chime in if I am wrong, but I believe the reason he can't run Stock is because he is building a Shelby GT500 Mustang, which was factory and NHRA rated at 500hp in 2007 and has a weight break of 6.94 in the Classification guide. AA/S is 7.50 - 7.99, but SS/B is 6.50 - 6.99.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1

Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.If one of the CJ drivers gets stupid or careless and gets enough HP on the combo
and they factor out to less than 7.50 then what does NHRA do, after rolling their tongues back into their mouth?

Ed F.

Could someone post the comparative engine specs for all three engines?

junior barns · 02-10-2009, 05:36 PM

Sooooooooooo I guess these engines are'nt available from the factory in a car to the public!! Sounds like Ford along with NHRA done an (end around) to skirt the rules. Build your own engine out of a parts book run NHRA!!

Just does'nt seem right!!

John Quinn · 02-10-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by junior barns

Sooooooooooo I guess these engines are'nt available from the factory in a car to the public!! Sounds like Ford along with NHRA done an (end around) to skirt the rules. Build your own engine out of a parts book run NHRA!!

Just does'nt seem right!!

The stocker engine was available to the public in the Cobra Jet. Evan does not have a Cobra Jet, he has a Shelby GT500 which has a different engine (also available to the public). Is that so hard to understand?

David Ley · 02-10-2009, 05:59 PM

Bill - Superfan1 & Ed,
Evan's car can run AA/S but would he have to add the weight to make AA/S and would have to weigh 3920. Not a practical race weight for AA/S.

02-10-2009, 03:45 PM	#2
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock ss3845 Did'nt mean to ruffle anybodies feathers. YES NHRA can do anything they want! I agree there is NO difference from someone taking a GT500, doing the mods themselves or getting one already done from the factory or Roush Racing! This car is avail with specs for everything. My question is can the CJ be bought from the factory bone stock with the (complete) engine that is in these cars? Just a guestion nothing more. ps I like these cars just dont think they are factored correctly; and, I dont like reading anything from NHRA even the rule book. LOL

02-10-2009, 04:41 PM	#3
Rusty Gillis Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 260 Likes: 21 Liked 87 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock In Dec 1967 Ford build 50 428 Mustangs and than in April 1968 started building them as a regular production option. I hope Ford does the same this time and make it a regular production option. __________________ Rusty Gillis Former NHRA SS/FA and SS/GA record holder

02-10-2009, 04:45 PM	#4
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Junior, All 50 CJ cars (and yes all 50 were built and accounted for as I have photos of nearly all of them being assembled) were available to the public and sold through Ford dealerships. If you had the loot in your suit and got your order in you got one. Plus, Ford Racing Performance Parts will be offering ALL the necessary parts so anyone can built their own CJ using either a FRPP body-in-white, or any 2005-2009 Mustang body. Evan __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK

02-10-2009, 05:20 PM	#5
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Evan; Why was the Mustang that Ford released to you was not allowed to run Stock but the new cars are? Not busting your balls Just curious why? And how is the car coming along? Ed __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

02-10-2009, 05:36 PM	#8
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Sooooooooooo I guess these engines are'nt available from the factory in a car to the public!! Sounds like Ford along with NHRA done an (end around) to skirt the rules. Build your own engine out of a parts book run NHRA!! Just does'nt seem right!!

02-10-2009, 05:59 PM	#10
David Ley Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Jersey Posts: 123 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Bill - Superfan1 & Ed, Evan's car can run AA/S but would he have to add the weight to make AA/S and would have to weigh 3920. Not a practical race weight for AA/S. __________________ Dave Ley NHRA TECH Last edited by David Ley; 02-10-2009 at 06:11 PM.