DQ for "icing"?

Jim Kaekel · 02-23-2009, 05:31 PM

Can dry ice pellets be dumped into a radiator? At Indy, I saw something a bit odd. During Stock class eliminations, I saw a racer dump what appeared to be ice into his radiator, but then saw him "fishing" out pieces of plastic that were floating around in the tank, almost like "pellets" that may have been packed in plastic.

art leong · 02-23-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel

Can dry ice pellets be dumped into a radiator? At Indy, I saw something a bit odd. During Stock class eliminations, I saw a racer dump what appeared to be ice into his radiator, but then saw him "fishing" out pieces of plastic that were floating around in the tank, almost like "pellets" that may have been packed in plastic.

Dry ice boils when immersed in water. Great effects for a band, not so good for a race car.
Years ago we ran alcohol in the cool can and added dry ice.

Tom Moock · 02-23-2009, 06:34 PM

Art Leong, What happens when you put dry ice in the fuel cell?

larry dowty · 02-23-2009, 07:08 PM

I would'nt doubt that art has tried that but you better make sure that the vent is working really good

Ed Fernandez · 02-23-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by art leong

Dry ice boils when immersed in water. Great effects for a band, not so good for a race car.
Years ago we ran alcohol in the cool can and added dry ice.

Artie;
Stop giving away all the good stuff for free.Start charging for the info.

Ed

Larry Hill · 02-23-2009, 07:49 PM

Jimmy, its always great to see you you at the races, hope to see you before Indy.
I know what I saw!

Larry

Freddie · 02-24-2009, 08:33 AM

This practice of cold water and ice has been going on for many years, I can remember first starting out in the early 80's with a friend of mine at E-Town. He did the same prior to his Record runs, or class elim. back then they ment someting. Today a class win in some classes is still a great achievment, but others only have to race themselves, where is the fun in that.

I can understand being DQ'd for this, realisticly you should be DQ'd for dropping anything on the racing surface, water, fuel, headers, whatever... I have seen alot of cars that somehow get past tech and on thier first run of the day drop **** out of the car. Water from ice has got to be the easiest thing to cleanup...

Ed Wright · 02-24-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by art leong

Dry ice boils when immersed in water. Great effects for a band, not so good for a race car.
Years ago we ran alcohol in the cool can and added dry ice.

I did that back in the late '60s, early '70s. Found out I had moisture in my fuel once when the fuel in the cool can line line froze on the way to the staging lanes. Kinda embarasing. Sure made for some cold fuel.

02-24-2009, 03:04 PM

There is most likely a safety angle to this. If you don't keep it in check people could get hurt. Last year running Jr stock at Atco, I had some water get under my rear tires and about the 330' mark my car made a quick right turn and got on 2 wheels. No body was hurt and nothing was damaged, ( Except my shorts

) but water came out of my cool can because ice kept a part of the lid from sealing. The same thing could happen from a bag of ice, or water. I bet that never happens again to that guy that got dq'ed. Just my 2 cents..

Mike Carr · 02-24-2009, 04:24 PM

Maybe I missed it at the time of the ruling, in regards to prohibiting the computer keyboard spray, but was there a reason given for it being outlawed? I would think one would want to use it, if only for the fact that it could get stray water droplets/ice cubes out of hard to reach places, bolt holes, etc?

02-23-2009, 05:31 PM	#1
Jim Kaekel VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,229 Likes: 133 Liked 535 Times in 110 Posts	Re: DQ for "icing"? Can dry ice pellets be dumped into a radiator? At Indy, I saw something a bit odd. During Stock class eliminations, I saw a racer dump what appeared to be ice into his radiator, but then saw him "fishing" out pieces of plastic that were floating around in the tank, almost like "pellets" that may have been packed in plastic. __________________ Jim Kaekel 3836 STK

02-23-2009, 06:34 PM	#3
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: DQ for "icing"? Art Leong, What happens when you put dry ice in the fuel cell? __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK

02-23-2009, 07:08 PM	#4
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chewelah wa Posts: 283 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: DQ for "icing"? I would'nt doubt that art has tried that but you better make sure that the vent is working really good

02-23-2009, 07:49 PM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,644 Likes: 1,941 Liked 10,739 Times in 2,234 Posts	Re: DQ for "icing"? Jimmy, its always great to see you you at the races, hope to see you before Indy. I know what I saw! Larry __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

02-24-2009, 08:33 AM	#7
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: DQ for "icing"? This practice of cold water and ice has been going on for many years, I can remember first starting out in the early 80's with a friend of mine at E-Town. He did the same prior to his Record runs, or class elim. back then they ment someting. Today a class win in some classes is still a great achievment, but others only have to race themselves, where is the fun in that. I can understand being DQ'd for this, realisticly you should be DQ'd for dropping anything on the racing surface, water, fuel, headers, whatever... I have seen alot of cars that somehow get past tech and on thier first run of the day drop **** out of the car. Water from ice has got to be the easiest thing to cleanup... __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

02-24-2009, 03:04 PM	#9
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: DQ for "icing"? There is most likely a safety angle to this. If you don't keep it in check people could get hurt. Last year running Jr stock at Atco, I had some water get under my rear tires and about the 330' mark my car made a quick right turn and got on 2 wheels. No body was hurt and nothing was damaged, ( Except my shorts ) but water came out of my cool can because ice kept a part of the lid from sealing. The same thing could happen from a bag of ice, or water. I bet that never happens again to that guy that got dq'ed. Just my 2 cents..

02-24-2009, 04:24 PM	#10
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: DQ for "icing"? Maybe I missed it at the time of the ruling, in regards to prohibiting the computer keyboard spray, but was there a reason given for it being outlawed? I would think one would want to use it, if only for the fact that it could get stray water droplets/ice cubes out of hard to reach places, bolt holes, etc? __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912