Mustang MPH?

bsa633 · 03-01-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

The GTO is a great example of a combination that was not submitted properly.

Was NHRA given the wrong numbers or that the numbers should be changed to fit another class?

GUMP · 03-01-2009, 09:15 AM

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Was NHRA given the wrong numbers or that the numbers should be changed to fit another class?

Lets take the 2006 model. The GTO was put in the books at 9.53. That allowed it to run A-C/FI. The fuel injected cars are now back in Stock at 1/2 lb weight breaks. The GTO would have been better off at 9.49. If there were no fuel injected classes at the time I think that GM would have submited them to run the faster classes. Please note that the net difference is approx. 12 pounds!

bsa633 · 03-01-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

Lets take the 2006 model. The GTO was put in the books at 9.53. That allowed it to run A-C/FI. The fuel injected cars are now back in Stock at 1/2 lb weight breaks. The GTO would have been better off at 9.49. If there were no fuel injected classes at the time I think that GM would have submited them to run the faster classes. Please note that the net difference is approx. 12 pounds!

That thing probably goes for hundreds of cars/combo's in the guide..but in your exapmle i dont really follow..The GTO has been granted a lower HP than Stock,still has that,HP has also been changed somewhere along the line(hit or decrease?)It would be 9.37 with the original hp...as in SS...now 9.53 as you stated..but it couldn't have been that when it arrived then..it also only take's a couple of hp(one hit) to bring it up one class if someone desire...and if it's uncompetitive ..well then a letter asking for lowering hp should be sent i guess..so.. not sure what your example is worth in this case..but in some other cases i am well aware what you saying..

p.s. On a personal note i'm still unsure if i think it was´a good move to let the cars go one class up and one down supposed to the old rule "original and one down only" .it created some new games..

GUMP · 03-01-2009, 07:35 PM

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The GTO has been granted a lower HP than Stock,still has that,HP has also been changed somewhere along the line(hit or decrease?)

I am not sure that anyone has actually raced one at 400 HP. What I was getting at is that the car could have been run as light as 3298 in A/FIA, but now the lightest you can run it is 3689 in C! That happened in the stroke of a pen. I think that that is the main thing keeping these cars out of Stock.

bsa633 · 03-01-2009, 10:39 PM

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I am not sure that anyone has actually raced one at 400 HP. What I was getting at is that the car could have been run as light as 3298 in A/FIA, but now the lightest you can run it is 3689 in C! That happened in the stroke of a pen. I think that that is the main thing keeping these cars out of Stock.

At that time when those cars(and others)were in FI-classes they could "legally" run up to 3 classes ligther than the orginal class according to the guide as per the rules for non FI cars that could run only class ligth..i guess you can take a lot of "****" out of the newer cars but it should be almost impossible to get it that light if you think about it...you say "stroke of a pen"..i say .."same for everybody"? I know some guys that think it is better when they are back on .5 weight breaks as the rest..

GUMP · 03-01-2009, 11:20 PM

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At that time when those cars(and others)were in FI-classes they could "legally" run up to 3 classes ligther than the orginal class according to the guide as per the rules for non FI cars that could run only class ligth..i guess you can take a lot of "****" out of the newer cars but it should be almost impossible to get it that light if you think about it...you say "stroke of a pen"..i say .."same for everybody"? I know some guys that think it is better when they are back on .5 weight breaks as the rest..

I know the history and am very glad that we are back on a 1/2 lb weight break. I just hate that the 2006 GTO is now a C/D/E car and not a B/C/D car. I just hope that they don't do the same with the new cars when they are put in the books.

Anyway, back on topic......