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Old 03-04-2009, 04:00 PM   #1
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Default Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval

If they build a new Camaro for SALE to the public, there WILL be a camaro to race the "other two"
Some one will build one or 10 or 50 what ever it takes.
From what I heard it is gigantic compared to the old ones so maybe just put them all in TOP/STK and let them see if a 69 Camaro can handle them... I could see me being re interested in racing if that could happen. I imagine someone would like a new Vette better but A camaro would be a more parallel car.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:06 PM   #2
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dick ,if they let the zo6 in,how loud would everyone cry...i dont see any way the new hemi will run with the new stang unless nhra allows it in a colt...
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:11 PM   #3
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So far, I haven't seen a new hemi I would call fast. 13 seconds off the show room floor at best. Do they have something new? The new Cobra Jet would turn one of those things every way but loose.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:31 PM   #4
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Ed,

FYI,

"Judy was .08 quicker at the 1000 so she would have ran a 11.16 or faster. corrected to sub 10.50."

This was from a post in reference to the race Judy Lily had with Don Garlits at the Mile Highs.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:26 PM   #5
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I hear the Hemi Challenger is available from the Hurst Corp. in a supercharged version. In keeping a level playing field, I was wondering if maybe it would be approved? (lmao)
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:42 PM   #6
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Good point on Hurst. Hurst has long been recognized by NHRA w/ Oldsmobile. Hurst is offering supercharger options on the Challenger with both the 5.7L & 6.1L Hemi's. If Hurst does petition NHRA for allowance of their own Challenger, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that?
425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter.
78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP.
Simple as that!

Saleen has also entered the Dodge Challenger tuner market. Saleen Mustangs have been recognized by NHRA as production vehicles so I would assume incorporating the Challengers by Saleen into the class guide shouldn't be an issue either.

Regarding the 6.1L Hemi SRT8 engine, I've mentioned it before but feel it's worth mentioning again. MACH Development took a 6.1L crate engine with full factory exhaust manifolds and front drive accesories, added larger injectors and provided their own tune. Idled "like a kitten" as he said and ripped 550 HP out of the factory 425 HP engine. This is not a blue-printed engine, it's right out of the MOPAR crate with the oil even provided in the assembly.
The "race" 6.1L Hemi provided with the Drag-Pak Challenger is an improvement on the above mentioned street Hemi.
I have no doubt a CJ500 vs. Race Hemi will be competitive; and exciting!

I read a Motor Trend article yesterday where GM was looking at political correctness in the current green world environment and elected to drop the 2010 Z-28 which was slated to use the 550HP Cadilac CTS-V supercharged engine (ZL1 'Vette engine de-tuned from 634 HP). Other concerns mentioned by GM was they had doubts (concerns?) about traction with such an engine in the RWD chassis.
Those that voted "for change" stand in a circle and say Yea!
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:47 PM   #7
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, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that?
425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter.
78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP.
Simple as that!
Fair enough...but i dont se it making Stock at that rating anyway..needs to be lower..so it would be SS...right were they should be!
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I read a Motor Trend article yesterday where GM was looking at political correctness in the current green world environment and elected to drop the 2010 Z-28 which was slated to use the 550HP Cadilac CTS-V supercharged engine (ZL1 'Vette engine de-tuned from 634 HP). Other concerns mentioned by GM was they had doubts (concerns?) about traction with such an engine in the RWD chassis.
Those that voted "for change" stand in a circle and say Yea!
When the supercharged Camaro project was cancelled the GM position at that time was that they only had $$ to support X development projects and they had to focus on higher volume platforms. This was well before the election. Having the current governments position being "everyone should have a hybrid and your alive because of our money so this is what you'll build" doesn't help the performance buyers cause either.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:31 PM   #9
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So far, I haven't seen a new hemi I would call fast. 13 seconds off the show room floor at best. Do they have something new? The new Cobra Jet would turn one of those things every way but loose.
Hey Ed, The production version of the Challengers is no where close to the Drag-Pak version. The Drag-Pak cars will be very close to the CJ's in ET. In testing, they went 10.0's with a weaker pump gas engine than the production "race" version. The new engines will have more power. Not to mention the fact that none of the esteemed Stock car racing guru's have hade time to tune on the car. Just wait until it gets into some gifted hands, and you'll see numbers equal to that of the CJ. The other good thing about the Drag-Pak is that its being offered with two engine options. You can get the wedge and run in a lower class, or get the hemi and run higher. Racer gets to choose.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:27 PM   #10
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Then it'll be interesting.
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