Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout?

John Lang · 03-13-2009, 02:16 PM

** That does mean breakout doesn't it? I can understand as was stated wheelspin,etc, but to be marked breakout has to be a misprint...........Thanks Later................. John

Larry Sullivan · 03-13-2009, 02:30 PM

It's an error and one I need to correct - we (FastNews Network) supply the "agate" results for Dragster. Our software does just what the stupid programmer (me) tells it to do. Nobody's ever mentioned that error before. Fortunately, I have this weekend off and I'll get it fixed, but probably not in time to prevent a similar mistake this weekend in Gainesville.

Superfan1 · 03-13-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Sullivan

It's an error and one I need to correct - we (FastNews Network) supply the "agate" results for Dragster. Our software does just what the stupid programmer (me) tells it to do. Nobody's ever mentioned that error before. Fortunately, I have this weekend off and I'll get it fixed, but probably not in time to prevent a similar mistake this weekend in Gainesville.

Larry you posted as I was composing mine; thanks for the update.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, Ct

Larry Sullivan · 03-13-2009, 04:39 PM

It was an easy fix - I wish someone had mentioned it years ago (it's been that way for a long time).

BobUnkefer · 03-13-2009, 05:07 PM

Larry,

I've seen it so many times before, I just figured there wasn't a way to fix it.......You guys were smarter than that.... or at least I thought so....

:-)

Unk

442OLDS · 03-13-2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Sullivan

It was an easy fix - I wish someone had mentioned it years ago (it's been that way for a long time).

You are right,it has been that way for a long time.I guess nobody ever pointed it out because it was assumed to be a typo.If the winner of a heads up race was the person that broke out the least,I would have won several of those over the years.
Great job,once again, on covering the eliminations in the early rounds on Drag Race Central.I sure wish that National Dragster could put the results of the first and second rounds in the Sportsman results issue.After all,after 2 rounds,75% of everyone will have lost.

Bernie Cunningham · 03-13-2009, 09:28 PM

Lolyd Mackay was driving my other car at Phoenix (incidently for sale, that's the car, not Lolyd!) and he had a round with the eventual race winner Brad Burton (congrats again "punk!" 2 stinking thou!), they both dialed 10.88 and the Nat. Drag. called it a heads up race!
Larry, is this part of the same problem?

Larry Sullivan · 03-13-2009, 10:12 PM

Nope - the heads-up rules only apply when the cars are the same class - I just forgot to have the software check the classes when flagging the breakouts.

The ND article may have referred to the start as "heads-up," but the breakout rules would still apply in that situation and even my flawed software would have produced the correct answer in that case.

The changes I just made will still flag the result as a breakout if the loser runs under his dial-in, even if both drivers have the same dial-in, as long as they are in different classes.

Superfan1 · 03-13-2009, 02:35 PM

National Dragster always lists the loser of a heads up race in class elims as "breaking out". The only reason that I can figure as to why they do this is because, assuming no breakage or missed shift, the loser is always under the index. It confused me at first until I noticed a pattern with every heads up race. Just like the NHRA to add confusion to a simple issue.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, Ct

03-13-2009, 02:16 PM	#1
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout? ** That does mean breakout doesn't it? I can understand as was stated wheelspin,etc, but to be marked breakout has to be a misprint...........Thanks Later................. John __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

03-13-2009, 02:30 PM	#2
Larry Sullivan Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 340 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout? It's an error and one I need to correct - we (FastNews Network) supply the "agate" results for Dragster. Our software does just what the stupid programmer (me) tells it to do. Nobody's ever mentioned that error before. Fortunately, I have this weekend off and I'll get it fixed, but probably not in time to prevent a similar mistake this weekend in Gainesville.

03-13-2009, 04:39 PM	#4
Larry Sullivan Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 340 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout? It was an easy fix - I wish someone had mentioned it years ago (it's been that way for a long time).

03-13-2009, 05:07 PM	#5
BobUnkefer Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 465 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout? Larry, I've seen it so many times before, I just figured there wasn't a way to fix it.......You guys were smarter than that.... or at least I thought so.... :-) Unk

03-13-2009, 09:28 PM	#7
Bernie Cunningham Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 561 Likes: 46 Liked 52 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout? Lolyd Mackay was driving my other car at Phoenix (incidently for sale, that's the car, not Lolyd!) and he had a round with the eventual race winner Brad Burton (congrats again "punk!" 2 stinking thou!), they both dialed 10.88 and the Nat. Drag. called it a heads up race! Larry, is this part of the same problem? __________________ Bernie Cunningham 7053 STK

03-13-2009, 10:12 PM	#8
Larry Sullivan Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 340 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout? Nope - the heads-up rules only apply when the cars are the same class - I just forgot to have the software check the classes when flagging the breakouts. The ND article may have referred to the start as "heads-up," but the breakout rules would still apply in that situation and even my flawed software would have produced the correct answer in that case. The changes I just made will still flag the result as a breakout if the loser runs under his dial-in, even if both drivers have the same dial-in, as long as they are in different classes.

03-13-2009, 02:35 PM	#9
Superfan1 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bridgeport,CT. Posts: 1,993 Likes: 1,667 Liked 2,638 Times in 440 Posts	Re: Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout? National Dragster always lists the loser of a heads up race in class elims as "breaking out". The only reason that I can figure as to why they do this is because, assuming no breakage or missed shift, the loser is always under the index. It confused me at first until I noticed a pattern with every heads up race. Just like the NHRA to add confusion to a simple issue. Bill Seabrooks - superfan1 Bridgeport, Ct