New '09 Chrysler' specs AA/S thru G/S

Troy Henderson · 03-26-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BobUnkefer

Hey Bob Shaw,,,,,, that U/SA Caddy for sale????????????

I'm with Unk, too bad they don't have a stick option.

Harry 6674 · 03-26-2009, 10:20 AM

Sounds like the LS1 chebbys a few years ago. What comes around goes around. Alls fair when factory support is availible.

Leroy Duran 7118 · 03-26-2009, 11:07 AM

whats the price tag on one of these cars in A/SA-C/SA form and how long is the wait?

Thanks

Bobby Zlatkin · 03-26-2009, 12:07 PM

Kind of reminds me of back (1972?) when all pre 1960 cars were outlawed from stock elim.

Just another way of clearing out the old and bringing in the new except this time just obsoleting the old rather than just banning them.

art leong · 03-26-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin

Kind of reminds me of back (1972?) when all pre 1960 cars were outlawed from stock elim.

Just another way of clearing out the old and bringing in the new except this time just obsoleting the old rather than just banning them.

What they did back then was put the older car in Superstock. Back then the only differences were cam and valve springs, intake manifold, slicks (but no tubs) So it wasn't a big expense to convert.

RJ · 03-27-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy Henderson

I'm with Unk, too bad they don't have a stick option.

With the 116" wheelbase (What was Dodge thinking?) and no weight out back (rear overhang), I think the car is going to be touchy in AA/SA on marginal tracks with the automatic anyway, probably worse if the man pedal was available.

Greg Hill · 03-27-2009, 06:44 AM

This whole deal with the Challengers and the new Mustangs is a joke. Why would NHRA not factor these cars appropriately? Why would they allow purpose built race cars in stock? Always before to run stock the car had to be available to the public and be streetable. I understand some of these older cars like the L88 corvette or Max wedge cars were rare but they still could be bought from a dealer and liscensed for the street. These cars if anyone has the money to build them will make our older cars obsolete. It's a slap in the face to all of us who have worked our asses off and spent tons of money developing our combination only to see them made irrelevant by people who are destroying our sport as we know it. Why don't Chrysler and Ford have to race cars that are available to the public and are streetable? Who actually benefits from allowing these bogus cars in stock? I always heard when investigating something like this that you need to follow the money. Where is the money? If anyone thinks this is going to increase participation in stock they are a fool.

Greg

Bruce Noland · 03-27-2009, 08:13 AM

Greg,
These new cars have a negative affect on more than 1,000 Stock and Super Stock racers.

It would have been very simple to put these cars in injected classes but there is clearly more going on here than meets the eye. A couple of days ago, one of the new car supporters sent me an email that said all of us old guys should move on. The new cars are here to stay and we should just take our lumps. And let them have their way.

You know, after a good nights rest, I decided this rather arrogant piece of advice to be dead-on. I'm getting the hell out of this hell hole and moving on to a flat head Ford Land Speed Car - something I have always wanted to do. But I can tell you that it will be scorched earth after my vette is gone. I think the AA through H racers should boycott these injected phony ponies and Mopars. Racers should pull into the staging lanes for class and then return to the pits when nhra calls his/her class. nhra should receive a dose of the same public humiliation that they are trying to inflct on the racers.

X-TECH MAN · 03-27-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Greg,
These new cars have a negative affect on more than 1,000 Stock and Super Stock racers.

It would have been very simple to put these cars in injected classes but there is clearly more going on here than meets the eye. A couple of days ago, one of the new car supporters sent me an email that said all of us old guys should move on. The new cars are here to stay and we should just take our lumps. And let them have their way.

You know, after a good nights rest, I decided this rather arrogant piece of advice to be dead-on. I'm getting the hell out of this hell hole and moving on to a flat head Ford Land Speed Car - something I have always wanted to do. But I can tell you that it will be scorched earth after my vette is gone. I think the AA through H racers should boycott these injected phony ponies and Mopars. Racers should pull into the staging lanes for class and then return to the pits when nhra calls his/her class. nhra should receive a dose of the same public humiliation that they are trying to inflct on the racers.

Now maybe some can see why street rodding and many other venues are so popular. NHRA just dosent give a S##T about the little guy sportsman other than his money.

Terry Cain · 03-27-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Greg,
These new cars have a negative affect on more than 1,000 Stock and Super Stock racers.

It would have been very simple to put these cars in injected classes but there is clearly more going on here than meets the eye. A couple of days ago, one of the new car supporters sent me an email that said all of us old guys should move on. The new cars are here to stay and we should just take our lumps. And let them have their way.

You know, after a good nights rest, I decided this rather arrogant piece of advice to be dead-on. I'm getting the hell out of this hell hole and moving on to a flat head Ford Land Speed Car - something I have always wanted to do. But I can tell you that it will be scorched earth after my vette is gone. I think the AA through H racers should boycott these injected phony ponies and Mopars. Racers should pull into the staging lanes for class and then return to the pits when nhra calls his/her class. nhra should receive a dose of the same public humiliation that they are trying to inflct on the racers.

Bruce,
You've got a point. Why run class anyway? YOU qualify for the eliminator (enhanced) ladder and there's very little if any money for class win.
I feel the only thing NHRA understands is when you get in their pocketbook. One way to do that is just not play their game. That's my plan. Granted, it might not make much difference but, I'm feed up with their BS.

03-26-2009, 10:20 AM	#2
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New '09 Chrysler' specs AA/S thru G/S Sounds like the LS1 chebbys a few years ago. What comes around goes around. Alls fair when factory support is availible.

03-26-2009, 11:07 AM	#3
Leroy Duran 7118 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 33 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New '09 Chrysler' specs AA/S thru G/S whats the price tag on one of these cars in A/SA-C/SA form and how long is the wait? Thanks

03-26-2009, 12:07 PM	#4
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New '09 Chrysler' specs AA/S thru G/S Kind of reminds me of back (1972?) when all pre 1960 cars were outlawed from stock elim. Just another way of clearing out the old and bringing in the new except this time just obsoleting the old rather than just banning them. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

03-27-2009, 06:44 AM	#7
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: New '09 Chrysler' specs AA/S thru G/S This whole deal with the Challengers and the new Mustangs is a joke. Why would NHRA not factor these cars appropriately? Why would they allow purpose built race cars in stock? Always before to run stock the car had to be available to the public and be streetable. I understand some of these older cars like the L88 corvette or Max wedge cars were rare but they still could be bought from a dealer and liscensed for the street. These cars if anyone has the money to build them will make our older cars obsolete. It's a slap in the face to all of us who have worked our asses off and spent tons of money developing our combination only to see them made irrelevant by people who are destroying our sport as we know it. Why don't Chrysler and Ford have to race cars that are available to the public and are streetable? Who actually benefits from allowing these bogus cars in stock? I always heard when investigating something like this that you need to follow the money. Where is the money? If anyone thinks this is going to increase participation in stock they are a fool. Greg __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

03-27-2009, 08:13 AM	#8
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: New '09 Chrysler' specs AA/S thru G/S Greg, These new cars have a negative affect on more than 1,000 Stock and Super Stock racers. It would have been very simple to put these cars in injected classes but there is clearly more going on here than meets the eye. A couple of days ago, one of the new car supporters sent me an email that said all of us old guys should move on. The new cars are here to stay and we should just take our lumps. And let them have their way. You know, after a good nights rest, I decided this rather arrogant piece of advice to be dead-on. I'm getting the hell out of this hell hole and moving on to a flat head Ford Land Speed Car - something I have always wanted to do. But I can tell you that it will be scorched earth after my vette is gone. I think the AA through H racers should boycott these injected phony ponies and Mopars. Racers should pull into the staging lanes for class and then return to the pits when nhra calls his/her class. nhra should receive a dose of the same public humiliation that they are trying to inflct on the racers. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK