We need a new "instant" trigger!

[Alan Roehrich]

I never said maximum weight was too hard to police, I said they would not do it. And I said it would be just another rule people would easily find a way around. So it is pointless. If you asked for it, and got it, then it did not work, what then?

I never said that incrementals actually represented "too much work", I said they were not interested in doing it.

No, the best solution is NOT a small group of people, especially not if NHRA chooses the people, and there is no recourse.

The BEST solution is to actually fix the AHFS system.

I doubt either will happen.

I agree, it is amusing that people claim to be in love with class racing because it is performance based, and then the same people will scream bloody murder if increasing the amount of heads up races is suggested, or if increasing the reward for performance is proposed.

It is also funny how people game the game and then complain when others do it.

[Ron Ortiz]

Well if NHRA won't use the incremental data that they already have, then the AHFS is doomed. I like what Mr. Beard said, factor *everybody* now against a baseline based on the years of data that's already been gathered, applying bell curve statistics. That is a good idea.

I spoke with Len Imbrogno about three or four years ago and offered my thoughts on the use of incremental data. He seemed interested in it. I often wonder if NHRA has been doing this now for awhile and we are not aware of it.

If Beards suggestion or the use of incremental times are not used, all this discussion is moot. This thread has officially died along with the AHFS.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA the bearer of doom.

[Michael Beard]

I never said maximum weight was too hard to police, I said they would not do it. And I said it would be just another rule people would easily find a way around. So it is pointless.

I think a min/max weight rule makes sense, even outside of any AHFS considerations. It seems pretty simple to me. You're at H weight? Then you're running H.

[Stocker 2]

You guys are making this way too complicated. The biggest problem with the AHFS is cars that can go 1.40 under at will.

A good solution would be the second time a car hits the 1.40 under it is no longer up to the AHFS percentages. The Stk/SS committee meets and decides where the refactored horsepower needs to be set no matter how much it takes to get the car inline. After that if the same combo ever hits the 1.40 under again, the committee sets the horsepower again.

[Bruce Noland]

Racer beware! Go too fast and get power. Set the number at 1.30 for automatic hits and leave the racer average at 1.15.

Just hit the go fast guy and leave the rest of the racers with his combo alone; unless they hit it as well. It's not that hard to do. Just add a personal weight sticker when the car is tech'd the next time.

[Billy Nees]

Stocker2, you're the first person in over 110 responses and 7000 views to respond to the only question that I originally asked! Now we just need an answer.