Overweight Stockers

Billy Nees · 03-30-2009, 05:50 PM

Actually Jared, it is expressed in black print on a white page under"Class Weight Breaks". By implying that there is a minimum weight I would guess that that is an implication of there being a maximum weight.

Jim Cimarolli · 03-30-2009, 06:14 PM

I have seen this rule enforced at a D-4 race. If a racer books a qualifying pass at more than 100 lbs. over the minimum, he cannot remove more than 100 lbs. less than that number regardless of his minimum weight.

Mark Yacavone · 03-30-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli

I have seen this rule enforced at a D-4 race. If a racer books a qualifying pass at more than 100 lbs. over the minimum, he cannot remove more than 100 lbs. less than that number regardless of his minimum weight.

Boy, talk about a liberal interpretation of the rulebook. The 100 lbs is supposed to pertain to the weight box and contents. That's why the bolts don't have to be welded.
A car with a stock gas tank can carry another 120 lbs or 20, depending on preference. Still legal to burn up fuel, isn't it?
What about spare tires/ That's another 50-60. Still legal ,as far as I know.
Somebody better get to work changing the rulebook, rather than making it up as they go along.

Jack Matyas · 03-30-2009, 07:37 PM

Billy -Not hijack your thread but I did a little checking in my "archives" and found that you were right about the '77 Seville not being in the books for more than thirty years -- I couldn't tell when it was added but as of 1988 in wasn't in the Official NHRA Classification Guide..........and here I thought you were looking at it even then ! ! But if you wanted to look the '75 Honda Civic was in along with the Hudson Hornet...........

herbjr · 03-30-2009, 07:47 PM

I have some books from 91,Ill check it tomorrow.

Brandon Peterson · 03-30-2009, 09:42 PM

"Are you serious? You're a big boy (tall wise) but you don't look that BIG. You carry it well!! "

yup...it used to be solid muscle back in my ole football days...lol...but yeah i do

Denny Steward · 03-30-2009, 10:10 PM

the reason I was told for your car having to fit the class you are in, is say there are 7 c/sa, 5 b/sa and o a/sa and the slowest of the c/sa cars now enters a/sa to avoid a heads up race that might happen in elims. without changing anything but the letter on the window. People that work on there cars and are fast should understand that this is the only way class racing should be if we dont start some where it will only be a matter of time before there is no heads up or quaifing and it will be just an all run bracket race

SS Engine Guy · 03-30-2009, 10:39 PM

I agree as to the way the rule book reads. ie: between 8.00 - 8.500 as an example. However, that is not the way it has worked for years in S/SS. Last year I made a qualifying run behind the eventual #1 qualifier and heard the scale tech tell him he was 900lbs. heavy. At the end of qualifying he was 1.37 under. National tech and div. tech told me that was perfectly legal. Illegal would be below the minimum weigh on his sticker. I brought up what some are talking about the weight breaks in the rule book (which I agree with) and they laughed in my face. No grey areas..................you guys are right. The only thing black and white is the paper and the print.

03-30-2009, 06:14 PM	#2
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 743 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers I have seen this rule enforced at a D-4 race. If a racer books a qualifying pass at more than 100 lbs. over the minimum, he cannot remove more than 100 lbs. less than that number regardless of his minimum weight.

03-30-2009, 07:37 PM	#4
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,932 Likes: 409 Liked 2,052 Times in 400 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers Billy -Not hijack your thread but I did a little checking in my "archives" and found that you were right about the '77 Seville not being in the books for more than thirty years -- I couldn't tell when it was added but as of 1988 in wasn't in the Official NHRA Classification Guide..........and here I thought you were looking at it even then ! ! But if you wanted to look the '75 Honda Civic was in along with the Hudson Hornet........... __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

03-30-2009, 07:47 PM	#5
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers I have some books from 91,Ill check it tomorrow.

03-30-2009, 09:42 PM	#6
Brandon Peterson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 436 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers "Are you serious? You're a big boy (tall wise) but you don't look that BIG. You carry it well!! " yup...it used to be solid muscle back in my ole football days...lol...but yeah i do

03-30-2009, 10:10 PM	#7
Denny Steward Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PORT ORANGE FL Posts: 284 Likes: 414 Liked 131 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers the reason I was told for your car having to fit the class you are in, is say there are 7 c/sa, 5 b/sa and o a/sa and the slowest of the c/sa cars now enters a/sa to avoid a heads up race that might happen in elims. without changing anything but the letter on the window. People that work on there cars and are fast should understand that this is the only way class racing should be if we dont start some where it will only be a matter of time before there is no heads up or quaifing and it will be just an all run bracket race

03-30-2009, 05:50 PM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,503 Likes: 3,604 Liked 7,796 Times in 1,747 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers Actually Jared, it is expressed in black print on a white page under"Class Weight Breaks". By implying that there is a minimum weight I would guess that that is an implication of there being a maximum weight. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K Last edited by Billy Nees; 03-30-2009 at 05:52 PM.

03-30-2009, 10:39 PM	#8
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Overweight Stockers I agree as to the way the rule book reads. ie: between 8.00 - 8.500 as an example. However, that is not the way it has worked for years in S/SS. Last year I made a qualifying run behind the eventual #1 qualifier and heard the scale tech tell him he was 900lbs. heavy. At the end of qualifying he was 1.37 under. National tech and div. tech told me that was perfectly legal. Illegal would be below the minimum weigh on his sticker. I brought up what some are talking about the weight breaks in the rule book (which I agree with) and they laughed in my face. No grey areas..................you guys are right. The only thing black and white is the paper and the print.