Overweight Stockers

[Chris1529]

the weight breaks in the rulebook are used to classify the car, and tell you the minimum weight you can be.
I don't think any reference is made to maximum weight. The only other references to weight have to do with how much weight you can add to your car.

Danny waters idea of the min/max weight on the stickers would be the only way to remedy this.

[Ed Fernandez]

Sounds like the solution for all you portly drivers is to have NHRA have ,in addition to the minimum weight,writing a maximum weight that takes your weight into consideration and gives you a combined weight of no more that adds the maximum weight for your class plus driver weight.You will be over the max weight ,but only by what your weight factor is.No 300/400 lbs over.Nah that's too simple.
Question:
I just looked through an old Hot Rod mag with the results from Indy 1988,Anyone know who was #1 qualifier in Stock????????????????????????


Ed F.

[dartman]

In the irha their is no max.I call (April 1 2009) Howie Dalton Regional Tech Director and that's what he said.you can be heavy as you like as long you follow the rules.

[bill dedman]

There was a time when all this was driver-weight bidness was moot. I don't remember the year, maybe 1977, or thereabouts, but I had a close friend who had built an A/SR, and it was fast. He weighed over 300 pounds, and at that time, NOBODY weighed drivers, with or without the cars; drivers were just dead weight that the motor had to pull, and were not factored into the classification process in any way, shape, or form, in any class.

If you had the famed "trained, 9-pound mongoose" made famous by Hot Rod magazine in the mid-1950's, driving for you, you were ahead of the game!!!

I had a Moroso Power/Speed calculator, one of those antique "slide rules" that would show you how much horsepower it took to put X number of pounds through the quarter mile in any given amount of time. Gave you MPH, too.

Of course, it was just a ballpark figure, but for comparison purposes, it was pretty educational.

I worked the numbers on my friend's Street Roadster and found out that it was taking about 50 horsepower MORE to run any given number than it would take if he had Judy Lilly driving the car...

SO, I wrote a letter to National DRAGSTER with my findings and suggested to the editor (Bill Holland, at the time), that they weigh the drivers with the cars. He ridiculed the idea, and asked if I thought the drivers should be weighed in their Jockey Shorts, or fully clothed???? He thought it was hilarious... and, un-enforceable.

It wasn't much longer, after that, that some big-guy Pro Stock drivers successfully prevailed upon NHRA to make the driver weight a part of the classification weight. Apparently, Don Nicholson and Dick Landy had more "pull" than I did. No kidding.... Imagine that!!! lol!

Never heard a PEEP from Mr. Holland.... LOL! Not a f'n word.... Wonder what he thinks, now???

For a good laugh, grab the March 20 issue of Nat'l. DRAGSTER and check out the text at the bottom of page 20 under "What's NEW?"; the Stocker segment at the bottom of the page. Somebody named John Bailey is going to have a Firebird that can EASILY go head-to-head with the new CJ Mustangs... LOL!!!


Bill

[Dennis P Chapman]

Hey Ed
Who was it. Also you going to atco this weekend.
Dennis

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman

Hey Ed
Who was it. Also you going to atco this weekend.
Dennis

Hi Dennis;
Since I guess my posts are invisible the answer is Bob Shaw @ 16.357 (-.543).
No to Atco this week.Birthday on Friday with family.Now I can sing along with the Beatles (When I'm 64).
No job yet,so the season looks lost so far.See you down the road.

Ed

[Dennis P Chapman]

Happy Birthday Ed many more.

Dennis

[Harry 6674]

Maybe the cars need to stay in their origanal class and not be able to move up or down race to race. It would make it tougher to avoid heads up races. Some of us more senior racers can remember when s/ss was the most popular eliminator, sure miss that.

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

the weight breaks in the rulebook are used to classify the car, and tell you the minimum weight you can be.
I don't think any reference is made to maximum weight. The only other references to weight have to do with how much weight you can add to your car.

Danny waters idea of the min/max weight on the stickers would be the only way to remedy this.

Think about this: if me and the car weigh 900lbs over but I still want to run D/S.....why the hell should the NHRA care? I'm going to lose my class every time but why should they care...it's still money in their pocket and I'm racing in the class I want to race in?

Jim

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by treessavoy

Think about this: if me and the car weigh 900lbs over but I still want to run D/S.....why the hell should the NHRA care? I'm going to lose my class every time but why should they care...it's still money in their pocket and I'm racing in the class I want to race in?

Jim

If you entered the car and if it's legal for C then you're giving yourself a better chance at winning class.
Maybe who you have to run will push it and bulb.That's one reason.Also by having everyone run weighing

inside the range for the class would make more cars show what they have and help the AHFS catch bogus HP ratings.
But nah screw 'em I get what I want and **** the rest.
If we don't do our part NHRA sure as poop won't make a move to straighten out the AHFS.
Then of course you race Nostalgia and it's 100% bracket racing,with some high $ cars.
Ed F.