Let's Start The Count

Mark Yacavone · 04-12-2009, 12:35 PM

Chip, If that's true ,then why are they raising all their fees, across the board?
They say they're losing money on us as it is. There must be some reason why they keep us around.

M Brand 505B · 04-12-2009, 01:21 PM

THE LEGEND, Let your friend know that according to the U.S. tax laws all citizens are subject to tax on all income they receive, regardless of the source (different country etc.). He wouldn't want to be caught on tax evasion lol. But about this subject... I'm not a class racer but do agree protesting Indy and even a few more NHRA races they make a lot of money at would open their eyes but we do not know how much. I wish we knew how much NHRA makes a year or per national event so we could really see the possible effect.

Rick Bailey · 04-12-2009, 03:48 PM

Tim,

How did we access it 390.00 for Indy ?

Rick

THE LEGEND · 04-12-2009, 03:58 PM

Mark,
It's the same reason a dog licks his whacker, BECAUSE HE CAN. They will continue to milk the racer for all they can while they can.
Chip

Charley Downing · 04-12-2009, 04:03 PM

Tim this will never work. To many people like myself love INDY.

Michael Beard · 04-12-2009, 05:25 PM

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He would get $150,000 tax free. He would leave his $60,000 a year job behind as well as his wife kid and NO RACING ( He has 2 bracket cars) And I would loose my crew chief. I told him you don't realize how little a hundred grand is in todays figures. 30 years ago it would be life changing. Today you could'nt payoff your mortgage.

I could pay off my mortgage, my truck, my wife's car... every penny of all of our other debts, and could go racing comfortably for 5 years on the leftovers. On top of that, with no debts, it'd be like having an "extra" $1,500-$2,000/month. Maybe I'm in the minority, but that's a life-changing figure for me.

Back on topic: I went to my first Indy last year. I'm not going this year -- to Indy , or *any* NHRA races. I didn't need a reminder as to why I let my membership go the first time. I *do* have options on where to race, and I'll vote with my feet.

THE LEGEND · 04-12-2009, 10:50 PM

Beard,
1) You could'nt leave racing for a year.
2) You can't work on anything so this would'nt matter to you. LOL

I keep thinking I want an NHRA # I've got 4 nationals within 300 miles of here. The problem is the divisionals I have to go to to get to run the nationals. IHRA has enough races to keep me busy.
I would love to go to INDY once just because, but probably not twice.
Chip

tim worner · 04-13-2009, 07:36 AM

Rick you are right it's $290 not $390. Bad math on my part. But still could be an eye opener for NHRA to look for revenue elsewhere other than the sportsman.

Dave Ficacci · 04-13-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tim worner

Rick you are right it's $290 not $390. Bad math on my part. But still could be an eye opener for NHRA to look for revenue elsewhere other than the sportsman.

I come up with $270

Ron Ortiz · 04-13-2009, 06:04 PM

They only allow the fastest to qualify, not like it used to be with class winners and then the fastest. Winning "Class" has lost some of its luster. I cannot run .80 under so I will not attend, and no, I am not going to work harder on my stuff to keep up with all the bogus factored "fastest" qualifiers. Besides that how many of you real fast guys out there have the likes of Bob Shaw, Bob Dennis, Lloyd McKay, and Mike Senia run in your class during the the past 20 years. All these guys ever did was be so far under it would make you cringe knowing that you could go .000 on the tree and still not have a chance if they went .500

Oh, and I forgot, with what it cost, the amount of days in relation to time runs, the fun factor eliminated, it just does not seem logical anymore. I believe that Indy should be reduced to a divisional and Belle Rose should be where the real BIG GO should be.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA Indy ain't got no shade

04-12-2009, 12:35 PM	#1
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,809 Likes: 2,900 Liked 5,113 Times in 1,948 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Chip, If that's true ,then why are they raising all their fees, across the board? They say they're losing money on us as it is. There must be some reason why they keep us around. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

04-12-2009, 01:21 PM	#2
M Brand 505B Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 158 Likes: 2 Liked 31 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count THE LEGEND, Let your friend know that according to the U.S. tax laws all citizens are subject to tax on all income they receive, regardless of the source (different country etc.). He wouldn't want to be caught on tax evasion lol. But about this subject... I'm not a class racer but do agree protesting Indy and even a few more NHRA races they make a lot of money at would open their eyes but we do not know how much. I wish we knew how much NHRA makes a year or per national event so we could really see the possible effect. __________________ Michael Brand II 505B - F/SA

04-12-2009, 03:48 PM	#3
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Tim, How did we access it 390.00 for Indy ? Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

04-12-2009, 03:58 PM	#4
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Let's Start The Count Mark, It's the same reason a dog licks his whacker, BECAUSE HE CAN. They will continue to milk the racer for all they can while they can. Chip

04-12-2009, 04:03 PM	#5
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Tim this will never work. To many people like myself love INDY.

04-12-2009, 10:50 PM	#7
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Let's Start The Count Beard, 1) You could'nt leave racing for a year. 2) You can't work on anything so this would'nt matter to you. LOL I keep thinking I want an NHRA # I've got 4 nationals within 300 miles of here. The problem is the divisionals I have to go to to get to run the nationals. IHRA has enough races to keep me busy. I would love to go to INDY once just because, but probably not twice. Chip

04-13-2009, 07:36 AM	#8
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Rick you are right it's $290 not $390. Bad math on my part. But still could be an eye opener for NHRA to look for revenue elsewhere other than the sportsman. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

04-13-2009, 06:04 PM	#10
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count They only allow the fastest to qualify, not like it used to be with class winners and then the fastest. Winning "Class" has lost some of its luster. I cannot run .80 under so I will not attend, and no, I am not going to work harder on my stuff to keep up with all the bogus factored "fastest" qualifiers. Besides that how many of you real fast guys out there have the likes of Bob Shaw, Bob Dennis, Lloyd McKay, and Mike Senia run in your class during the the past 20 years. All these guys ever did was be so far under it would make you cringe knowing that you could go .000 on the tree and still not have a chance if they went .500 Oh, and I forgot, with what it cost, the amount of days in relation to time runs, the fun factor eliminated, it just does not seem logical anymore. I believe that Indy should be reduced to a divisional and Belle Rose should be where the real BIG GO should be. Ron Ortiz U/SA Indy ain't got no shade __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK