Send Letters to NHRA

Casey Miles · 04-13-2009, 02:46 PM

Sending letters to NHRA is like pissing into the wind, the only way that they will change is if the bean counters see a significant difference in the money that doesn't come into pockets. It will have start within it's own accounting group when they scramble to pay bills. Crap will start flowing up hill!
Casey Miles
248H E/S (WAITING FOR CHANGES)

chevy620 · 04-13-2009, 03:23 PM

I didn't read every post but the concensus seems to be....it has to STOP. Same payout for two decades, more costs thrown to us sportsman racers.
Personally, I have a Stock number, ET Number, S/C number and a T/D number and the Competition License that just went from $50.00 to $100.00 alone. To get my numbers and renew my License $160.00 and I haven't even entered a race yet! I decided to just get the Stock number for now, I can race the dragster locally or at big $$ races without the added cost of NHRA License.
Will I quit? No, but I will definitely race less this year and not worry about what the sanctioning body is.

Now, the one guy who asked about Contingency Money and how it worked. My company, Trailer Toad, was a Contingency sponsor in 2008 I can tell you first hand:
We posted at Lucas Oil Drag Series Events and Divisional ET FInals.

$1000.00 membership to NHRA to be a posting Contingency Sponsor. $4500.00 in guaranteed payouts to be made, if less than that is paid to racers the balance goes to NHRA. (This is why most Contingency Sponsors decided to take a hike this year.)

I think the ET Finals Contingency cost $200 or $300 to post the money but no minimum you had to pay out.

We signed up for the 7 - Division ET FInals and the Jr Dragster League (no charge).

We also have established our own "Racer Rewards Program" We will pay the same contingency we did in 2008 but we handle the whole thing personally, with our customers.

If NHRA does not get a clue that raising every cost at one time was not a stupid move, we are stupid for paying those fees. If I raised the price of the Trailer Toad 50% (because I was going broke) I KNOW I would NOT SELL MORE Trailer Toads!!!!!!!

The NHRA is a membership driven organization, if you don't believe that just take a look at the replay of the stands in Vegas for the Pro Semi-finals and Finals.... couldn't have been 1/4 of the seasts occupied. That is WHEN the decision to raise Sportsman costs was made.

Wish the news was different but it isn't.

Jok

Goose6891 · 04-13-2009, 04:35 PM

I don't race a Stocker or Super Stocker, but I've been Bracket racing for 10 years now so I think I'm permitted an opinion on this... Yeah, I don't have the entry fees like you guys, nor the tow bills, but my family supports me and we try and have a good time racing here in the Northwest just the same despite having a special needs child that now is in the early stages of kidney failure. The car counts have been going down for a while now, especially last year. And now with the economy in the tank it's a real dumb move to say the least. The only thing that I guess I can bitch about is WHY THE HELL THE COMP # FEES DOUBLED? The only reason we bracket racers "need" one is for the ET Finals event at the end of the year.... Yeah, $80/2 years just so I can allowed the apparent privelge of racing at the Finals? All for just hitting the "renew" button or whatever the admin in Glendora does to keep it assigned to me? THAT is crap! The 'white house' in Glendora gets rid of the oil down penalties so I guess they had to recoup that money AND THEN SOME from us. A bunch of you have made a point of how the Sportsman racer is supporting the Pros. Well, throw in us bracket guys and that's a LOT of money from the customers that will be affected the most by it. Thousands of members with a least one number, let alone my fellow racers that are Stockers, the Index classes...

Thank you Dan Fletcher. It's a privilege to see someone as yourself stand up for a principle. To those making excuses for the raises: do I still have a job and can afford the doubling? Yeah, but that's NOT the point. It, along with some other increases were way out of line and when will it stop?

Sincerely,
Jerry Gossette
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/768944
http://www.cardomain.com/id/goose6891

Ed Fernandez · 04-13-2009, 06:09 PM

$1000.00 membership to NHRA to be a posting Contingency Sponsor. $4500.00 in guaranteed payouts to be made, if less than that is paid to racers the balance goes to NHRA. (This is why most Contingency Sponsors decided to take a hike this year.)

These guys can teach the Mafia a few tricks.

Ron Ortiz · 04-13-2009, 06:23 PM

Chevy620,

The $4500. is that for the year or per National Event. And what about class payout, could you elaborate on that. Thank You.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA

Jim Cimarolli · 04-13-2009, 07:16 PM

Once your hooked it's over ,you will race till your dead or broke

Well, I guess then I ain't hooked, just broke.

Jim Hanig · 04-13-2009, 08:00 PM

Jim and all a long i thought you where gone, glad to see your still kicking. Jim Hanig

04-13-2009, 02:46 PM	#1
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA Sending letters to NHRA is like pissing into the wind, the only way that they will change is if the bean counters see a significant difference in the money that doesn't come into pockets. It will have start within it's own accounting group when they scramble to pay bills. Crap will start flowing up hill! Casey Miles 248H E/S (WAITING FOR CHANGES)

04-13-2009, 03:23 PM	#2
chevy620 Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 188 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA I didn't read every post but the concensus seems to be....it has to STOP. Same payout for two decades, more costs thrown to us sportsman racers. Personally, I have a Stock number, ET Number, S/C number and a T/D number and the Competition License that just went from $50.00 to $100.00 alone. To get my numbers and renew my License $160.00 and I haven't even entered a race yet! I decided to just get the Stock number for now, I can race the dragster locally or at big $$ races without the added cost of NHRA License. Will I quit? No, but I will definitely race less this year and not worry about what the sanctioning body is. Now, the one guy who asked about Contingency Money and how it worked. My company, Trailer Toad, was a Contingency sponsor in 2008 I can tell you first hand: We posted at Lucas Oil Drag Series Events and Divisional ET FInals. $1000.00 membership to NHRA to be a posting Contingency Sponsor. $4500.00 in guaranteed payouts to be made, if less than that is paid to racers the balance goes to NHRA. (This is why most Contingency Sponsors decided to take a hike this year.) I think the ET Finals Contingency cost $200 or $300 to post the money but no minimum you had to pay out. We signed up for the 7 - Division ET FInals and the Jr Dragster League (no charge). We also have established our own "Racer Rewards Program" We will pay the same contingency we did in 2008 but we handle the whole thing personally, with our customers. If NHRA does not get a clue that raising every cost at one time was not a stupid move, we are stupid for paying those fees. If I raised the price of the Trailer Toad 50% (because I was going broke) I KNOW I would NOT SELL MORE Trailer Toads!!!!!!! The NHRA is a membership driven organization, if you don't believe that just take a look at the replay of the stands in Vegas for the Pro Semi-finals and Finals.... couldn't have been 1/4 of the seasts occupied. That is WHEN the decision to raise Sportsman costs was made. Wish the news was different but it isn't. Jok

04-13-2009, 04:35 PM	#3
Goose6891 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA I don't race a Stocker or Super Stocker, but I've been Bracket racing for 10 years now so I think I'm permitted an opinion on this... Yeah, I don't have the entry fees like you guys, nor the tow bills, but my family supports me and we try and have a good time racing here in the Northwest just the same despite having a special needs child that now is in the early stages of kidney failure. The car counts have been going down for a while now, especially last year. And now with the economy in the tank it's a real dumb move to say the least. The only thing that I guess I can bitch about is WHY THE HELL THE COMP # FEES DOUBLED? The only reason we bracket racers "need" one is for the ET Finals event at the end of the year.... Yeah, $80/2 years just so I can allowed the apparent privelge of racing at the Finals? All for just hitting the "renew" button or whatever the admin in Glendora does to keep it assigned to me? THAT is crap! The 'white house' in Glendora gets rid of the oil down penalties so I guess they had to recoup that money AND THEN SOME from us. A bunch of you have made a point of how the Sportsman racer is supporting the Pros. Well, throw in us bracket guys and that's a LOT of money from the customers that will be affected the most by it. Thousands of members with a least one number, let alone my fellow racers that are Stockers, the Index classes... Thank you Dan Fletcher. It's a privilege to see someone as yourself stand up for a principle. To those making excuses for the raises: do I still have a job and can afford the doubling? Yeah, but that's NOT the point. It, along with some other increases were way out of line and when will it stop? Sincerely, Jerry Gossette http://www.cardomain.com/ride/768944 http://www.cardomain.com/id/goose6891

04-13-2009, 06:09 PM	#4
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA $1000.00 membership to NHRA to be a posting Contingency Sponsor. $4500.00 in guaranteed payouts to be made, if less than that is paid to racers the balance goes to NHRA. (This is why most Contingency Sponsors decided to take a hike this year.) These guys can teach the Mafia a few tricks. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

04-13-2009, 06:23 PM	#5
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 990 Likes: 36 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA Chevy620, The $4500. is that for the year or per National Event. And what about class payout, could you elaborate on that. Thank You. Ron Ortiz U/SA __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

04-13-2009, 07:16 PM	#6
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 743 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA Once your hooked it's over ,you will race till your dead or broke Well, I guess then I ain't hooked, just broke.

04-13-2009, 08:00 PM	#7
Jim Hanig Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pukwana SD Posts: 860 Likes: 554 Liked 99 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA Jim and all a long i thought you where gone, glad to see your still kicking. Jim Hanig