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Jim Wahl · 04-22-2009, 09:01 AM

You know, you would think if NHRA is in such dire straights financially that they would accept any licensed racer as long as he had the required entry fees in hand? I am 57 years old. I have been racing with the NHRA since I was 16. Somewhere this whole thing has gone terribly wrong. I don't know where or when but someone needs to stop and say "what the hell is going on here!" This is exactly why these new racers "associations" are popping up and doing so well. It's getting to the point where our association, the SSSSA draws more Stock and Super Stockers than an NHRA National Event! This is getting beyond ridiculous. NHRA...... what are you thinking? Jim

Bob Don · 04-22-2009, 09:01 AM

Wow. Midwest Nats firgures aren't much better!

Event Statistics

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05/01/2009 - 05/03/2009 - O’Reilly NHRA Midwest Nationals

Category Quota Entries % Full
Top Fuel Dragster 24 15 62.5%

Fuel Funny Car 24 15 62.5%

Pro Stock 26 26 100.0%

Pro Stock Motorcycle 26 16 61.5%

Competition Eliminator 50 21 42.0%

Super Stock 130 61 46.9%

Super Comp 90 56 62.2%

Super Gas 90 54 60.0%

Event Total 460 264 57.4%

Is it the economy or are racers making a statement?

Brandon Peterson · 04-22-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mannymen

Just curious myself and it's a good question. It would save me from having to show up at divisionals for ridiculous grade pts

thats what im talking about....and some div. points would be an extreme to travel too...

BEDNAR1320 · 04-22-2009, 10:53 AM

I believe the NHRA is moving towards eliminating sportsman cars from national events-but I think they will add more sportsman only "national" events like the three sportsnationals now on the schedule--this may actually be a good thing-no more running early in the morning and late at night at national events,just to sit in the trailer/motorhome all day while the pros run,I think this would be more fun anyways!

X-TECH MAN · 04-22-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BEDNAR1320

I believe the NHRA is moving towards eliminating sportsman cars from national events-but I think they will add more sportsman only "national" events like the three sportsnationals now on the schedule--this may actually be a good thing-no more running early in the morning and late at night at national events,just to sit in the trailer/motorhome all day while the pros run,I think this would be more fun anyways!

Uh....It seems that I posted this very thing about 6 or 7 years ago and most all on this forum said I didnt know what I was talking about ! I gave it about 5 to 7 years when I originally posted it.....its taken 2 or 3 years longer than that so shoot me.....LOL. Hang on because its a coming but its not really a bad thing.!

Bruce Noland · 04-22-2009, 02:35 PM

The Pro Series has no defined legal status. It is owned by the association. It would be very difficult for the association to cut Sportsman racers out of Nationals. Besides in 3 to 5 years the nitro cars will be in museums. They aren't going to get away with belching that stuff much longer. The tree huggers are full throttle. TOMCO is smart enough to see that one coming.

Alan Roehrich · 04-22-2009, 06:03 PM

Yes. I ran Bristol last year, and I did not have a grade point before then. I did not collect a grade point until a month or so later at Bowling Green.

Kenny Wigington · 04-22-2009, 06:19 PM

" Is it the economy or are racers making a statement? ""

I think that the correct answer there is, BOTH !! A lot of peoples money is screwed down tightly, and the thought processes from out there has got a lot of people asking , what are they thinking ?.

mannymen · 04-23-2009, 08:20 AM

Alan,
Are you saying you never had in your lifetime any grade points or attended any grade point races before entering an NHRA National event???

Alan Roehrich · 04-23-2009, 05:25 PM

That was my first NHRA race as a driver in well over a decade. They did not even have me on record.

I had left drag racing completely around 1992 or so. Did not come back until I started working on a friend's car around 2005 or so.

04-22-2009, 09:01 AM	#11
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: For real You know, you would think if NHRA is in such dire straights financially that they would accept any licensed racer as long as he had the required entry fees in hand? I am 57 years old. I have been racing with the NHRA since I was 16. Somewhere this whole thing has gone terribly wrong. I don't know where or when but someone needs to stop and say "what the hell is going on here!" This is exactly why these new racers "associations" are popping up and doing so well. It's getting to the point where our association, the SSSSA draws more Stock and Super Stockers than an NHRA National Event! This is getting beyond ridiculous. NHRA...... what are you thinking? Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

04-22-2009, 09:01 AM	#12
Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,495 Likes: 1,114 Liked 900 Times in 191 Posts	Re: For real Wow. Midwest Nats firgures aren't much better! Event Statistics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05/01/2009 - 05/03/2009 - O’Reilly NHRA Midwest Nationals Category Quota Entries % Full Top Fuel Dragster 24 15 62.5% Fuel Funny Car 24 15 62.5% Pro Stock 26 26 100.0% Pro Stock Motorcycle 26 16 61.5% Competition Eliminator 50 21 42.0% Super Stock 130 61 46.9% Super Comp 90 56 62.2% Super Gas 90 54 60.0% Event Total 460 264 57.4% Is it the economy or are racers making a statement?

04-22-2009, 10:53 AM	#14
BEDNAR1320 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: OCALA,FL Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: For real I believe the NHRA is moving towards eliminating sportsman cars from national events-but I think they will add more sportsman only "national" events like the three sportsnationals now on the schedule--this may actually be a good thing-no more running early in the morning and late at night at national events,just to sit in the trailer/motorhome all day while the pros run,I think this would be more fun anyways! __________________ I'd sure like some of that stimulus money-to go racing,of course

04-22-2009, 02:35 PM	#16
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: For real The Pro Series has no defined legal status. It is owned by the association. It would be very difficult for the association to cut Sportsman racers out of Nationals. Besides in 3 to 5 years the nitro cars will be in museums. They aren't going to get away with belching that stuff much longer. The tree huggers are full throttle. TOMCO is smart enough to see that one coming. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

04-22-2009, 06:03 PM	#17
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,105 Likes: 1,564 Liked 1,789 Times in 408 Posts	Re: For real Yes. I ran Bristol last year, and I did not have a grade point before then. I did not collect a grade point until a month or so later at Bowling Green. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

04-22-2009, 06:19 PM	#18
Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: For real " Is it the economy or are racers making a statement? "" I think that the correct answer there is, BOTH !! A lot of peoples money is screwed down tightly, and the thought processes from out there has got a lot of people asking , what are they thinking ?. __________________ 2894 STK

04-23-2009, 08:20 AM	#19
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: For real Alan, Are you saying you never had in your lifetime any grade points or attended any grade point races before entering an NHRA National event??? __________________ N/A

04-23-2009, 05:25 PM	#20
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,105 Likes: 1,564 Liked 1,789 Times in 408 Posts	Re: For real That was my first NHRA race as a driver in well over a decade. They did not even have me on record. I had left drag racing completely around 1992 or so. Did not come back until I started working on a friend's car around 2005 or so. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S