New Record in Drag Racing History

[Lynn A McCarty]

Bret,

I agree with 100% what you said. I am one of your biggest fans. However, repackaging and reselling is a good thing. I dont even like or watch pinks! It doesnt even make sense to me. Yeah they were wrong, but it worked! It proves old things and old decisions are sometimes more successful revisited.

There is nothing cheaper than sugar, flour, and corn, it takes molding them into straws with chocolate to get $8 per pound (of which I refuse to buy the twins).

In my business a chemical company had a new technology called Transport plus which was nothing but a marketing program for what we introduced in the 1960's that was an all synthetic polymer approach instead of using natural occurring substances. However, they sold millions because they actually marketed it and went actively trying to sell it.

Current sanctioning body's refusal to market us is the most embarrassing thing I have seen. I was at Indy and there was no one in the stands except for pit crew and family members. Embarrassing in my book (except going across the scales 10lbs light). I tried to promote Indy as the Door Slammer Nationals, but got no where.

This is why Terry's deal is so important, Alex got 20,000 or so fans without even trying. Nothing will sell if you dont try and sell it. Industry is 20 years behind technology. I know Sers and SSers on TV would be a big hit with the proper promotion. They are way closer to NASCAR something for people to relate.

No one will buy it if it is never promoted or sold. It is why I was trying to do a promotional film at ST Louis a few years ago with an exciting announcer approach. If no one else is going to do it, we need to do it ourselves. Just talking out loud trying to seed a vision of something that needs to happen. We need to put our constructive minds together and promote what we love! I asked Annette that, and she just asks me for the credit card.

[Michael Beard]

When I raced my 2.2L FWD Turismo, the car got tons of attention. Casual at first: "Neat car. Where's the nitrous?" No nitrous. "Oh, turbo car." Nope. 2bbl carb. Boom, swarm of kids around the car, "How do you GO that fast?!"

Cars don't have to be fast or RWD to be fun to watch. *Close* racing is fun to watch, regardless. Larry Munk and I raced at the Dutch one year, and I swear we passed each other three times going down the track! It was like watching Fast & Furious, where we shift 8 times, hit the nitrous 3 times, and keep going faster. LOL

One of my buddies got down to the semis in a 32-car shootout they did Friday night for some of the slower cars at Pinks. He got beat by .017. Had a blast. And oh, BTW, he signed 8 autographs over the weekend alongside his mid 11-sec primered Chevy II.

Scott - welcome!

Disclaimer: I have absolutely no credibility, as I own Mopars, a FWD car, a Crate Motor car, and I know Billy Nees.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

Bret,

I agree with 100% what you said. I am one of your biggest fans. However, repackaging and reselling is a good thing. I dont even like or watch pinks! It doesnt even make sense to me. Yeah they were wrong, but it worked! It proves old things and old decisions are sometimes more successful revisited.

There is nothing cheaper than sugar, flour, and corn, it takes molding them into straws with chocolate to get $8 per pound (of which I refuse to buy the twins).

In my business a chemical company had a new technology called Transport plus which was nothing but a marketing program for what we introduced in the 1960's that was an all synthetic polymer approach instead of using natural occurring substances. However, they sold millions because they actually marketed it and went actively trying to sell it.

Current sanctioning body's refusal to market us is the most embarrassing thing I have seen. I was at Indy and there was no one in the stands except for pit crew and family members. Embarrassing in my book (except going across the scales 10lbs light). I tried to promote Indy as the Door Slammer Nationals, but got no where.

This is why Terry's deal is so important, Alex got 20,000 or so fans without even trying. Nothing will sell if you dont try and sell it. Industry is 20 years behind technology. I know Sers and SSers on TV would be a big hit with the proper promotion. They are way closer to NASCAR something for people to relate.

No one will buy it if it is never promoted or sold. It is why I was trying to do a promotional film at ST Louis a few years ago with an exciting announcer approach. If no one else is going to do it, we need to do it ourselves. Just talking out loud trying to seed a vision of something that needs to happen. We need to put our constructive minds together and promote what we love! I asked Annette that, and she just asks me for the credit card.

Lynn I agree with the marketing concept.
But a violently oppose just dropping certain classes because one of your organizers doesn't like them.
You are in Divison 3. When Tim Kish goes to a race take a look at how many fans are stopping to take pictures and talk. No offense meant but if you were pitted next to him. I promise many would pass up your car and make a beeline for the Neon. I've seen this with my car and it's a portable slum compared to Tim's.
The announcers always play up my car when I'm in eliminations. And plenty of people like to root for the underdog.

[Michael Beard]

This was pretty awesome!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

I believe that "deep staging" was started at New York National Speedway by Sam Biondo or Phil Montief, because of the one amber light christmas tree. It was almost like a pro tree except with a spot involved. If I'm wrong, I sorry to whom did come up with deep staging.
Casey Miles
248H

I believe Dave Boertman became noted for Deep Staging back around 1970 with his 69 Chevy. Then even more when racing IHRA with his 1971 Rod Shop Dodges. He was one of the best at it.

[chris3racing]

Mike:

The video you just posted, if you can get past how awsome the race is, look at the stands. The video is being shot from what is considered by NHRA-Z-max as the cheaper seats. You are looking across the track at the "John Force Grandstand". Look down the stands as the camera pans. All of the people jumping up and down and waving, beside the camera person, are on the "cheap seat" side which was also filled.

This is what I have wanted to see since coming back into drag racing and building an "old school" superstocker. The stands were packed, the pit area was packed and the cars were superstock type cars and the people loved it. Speed Channel, Pinks or that guy Rich had noting to do with the response from the people watching these cars go down the track. And what about that wagon? I have noticed the same thing as has been previously mentioned, the only people in the stands at typical races are the family, friends and drivers not racing at the time.

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Bill....They could run Top Fool and ha hah cars 4 at a time.....4 from the starting line and 4 from the finish line at the same time and see who gets to the 1/8 th mile first, (hopefuly its a tie) and Im NOT kidding.

Cool, that way when they had a mishap (read wreck) it would take out 4 cars therefore shortening the race and maybe more time for the little guy...course clean up would be 4 times longer too!

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Toyotakid

It kinda makes me sad that there is so much hostility toward the newer technology. (FWD cars). I have been able to come run with you guys this year and have been having a great time. I grew up a muscle car fan and was Mopar all the way but I got an opportunty to drive for Toyota 5 years ago and I have not regretted it. The technology and design behind a 158 c.i. normally aspirated front wheel drive car running 9.60's @ over 140 is pretty darn cool. The thought and innovation of these cars is like the old days of the hot rod cars back in the "golden days". I also have noticed that the average age of the stock and super stock racer is getting up there and if NHRA does not embrace the new generation and the cars they are hot rodding right now there will be no more grass roots in 5-7 years ... Hell, it took me over a year just to get NHRA to let me run with you guys, don't get me sarted on my initial index compared to everyone else ...

I think some of the grief with your car and the new FI cars is that you need a computer to tune your car while the rest of us are limited to timing lights and physical changes; jets, metering rods, timing changes, etc. How can we compete with a computer that can certainly make changes to your motor while we couldn't even detect the problem?

[Toyotakid]

I am not sure that I understand the "computer" defense as I have my own class, not infringing on any current classes and it is a bracket race in the end. I have been to five races and have been beaten each time by an old school hot rod because I either left late or they threw a better package at me. So it seems to me there is no distinct advantage to being fuel injected over carburated. I fall off just like everyone else as the weather changes and it seem you guys are pretty damn good at this with or without a computer!

P.S. My new best friend has been the weather station with the e.t. predictor!

[Mike Voth]

It really shouldn't be too hard to understand the "computer" thing. There's absolutely no way a computer controlled car falls off as much as a non-computer controlled car. Where this becomes pertainant is in qualifying. A computer controlled car makes fuel and timing adjustment on the fly, which would, all things equal, make the car more efficient, and, in return, perform better for the conditions. We can make carb or timing changes according to the weather, but it's only a guess, not knowing how it will actually affect the car. The optimal setting will always be present in a computer controlled car. I wouldn't believe otherwise. But I don't mind the computer cars, in fact, it would be nice to drive one...a lot easier to maintain, I would guess. As long as it was American, and the big wheels were on the rear!