Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise

John Mason · 05-01-2009, 07:18 PM

Schmidt's for real.
Look under "Darin Grossi" on Auto imagery. That was Dave's driver in his B/SA Mopar. Won some Nationals and Divisionals before the car went to Sweden 2 or 3 years ago.

bad man · 05-01-2009, 07:29 PM

well said john dave was a class act for years with his car.

RJ · 05-01-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mason

Schmidt's for real.
Look under "Darin Grossi" on Auto imagery. That was Dave's driver in his B/SA Mopar. Won some Nationals and Divisionals before the car went to Sweden 2 or 3 years ago.

I'm not as old a guy, but I think I remember the same car ran with a hemi as an A/SA back in the 70's - Sutton and Schmitz?

Bob Mulry · 05-01-2009, 09:26 PM

If you think that Dave was tough at the track you should try having him for a boss.

I worked for him (he will claim that I never worked a day in my life) back in the early 80's and he was always a racers racer.

The big problem was all of us getting off to race our cars at the same time.

Glad to hear that you're OK.

Take care,

Bob, Rich & Dave

GUMP · 05-01-2009, 09:41 PM

1 633 B/SA Hal Sorensen, Vancouver WA, '69 Camaro 10.159 11.93 -1.771

Ed Fernandez · 05-02-2009, 02:06 AM

. For one thing it doesn't take into consideration exceptional conditions like today in Boise. The conditions were beyond mineshaft.

So Chuck,if one of us East coast guys flys in real good air I guess we can just dump weight to discount
the run to avoid a hit?

Ed F.

Jim Cimarolli · 05-02-2009, 02:37 AM

Well, did the run count or not?

John Mason · 05-01-2009, 09:54 PM

Kinda fell into a buzz saw, right Chuck?
As to weight adjustment prior to scales, let me give you a scenerio. You have a B/SA and run another B/SA in eliminations. They beat you by .01 (ignore reaction times) and, just before the scales, someone hands them a 25 lb. bar which they put under the seat. They are OK by 5 lbs.
Is that legal?
Of course not.
Adjusting weight after a run for any reason is not in keeping with the spirit of the rules. That being said, I've got a lot of respect for the Sorensons, and I understand why they did it. The AHFS makes little sense. It would take little effort to write a computer program that converts ET to match actual DA at the time of the run rather than to an arbitrary factor. We do it all the time with our weather stations.

Chuck Porter · 05-01-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mason

Kinda fell into a buzz saw, right Chuck?
As to weight adjustment prior to scales, let me give you a scenerio. You have a B/SA and run another B/SA in eliminations. They beat you by .01 (ignore reaction times) and, just before the scales, someone hands them a 25 lb. bar which they put under the seat. They are OK by 5 lbs.
Is that legal?
Of course not.
Adjusting weight after a run for any reason is not in keeping with the spirit of the rules. That being said, I've got a lot of respect for the Sorensons, and I understand why they did it. The AHFS makes little sense. It would take little effort to write a computer program that converts ET to match actual DA at the time of the run rather than to an arbitrary factor. We do it all the time with our weather stations.

John
I understand and agree with what you are saying. I understand NHRA has been approached in the past to develop and implement a program similar to what you are describing. I haven't anything more about it for a long time.
I want to think there is still some sprit left in the interpretation of the rules. However "we" in this sport have deviated so far from the way it was 30+ years ago when I started, that it's hard to define the boundaries of the rules anymore.
I still haven't found the rule in the rule book.
Chuck

RE: Buzz saw - I suppose I did. I guess Dave & I were on a collision course this morning. I hold no grudges.

OLD GUY · 05-01-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

I'm not as old a guy, but I think I remember the same car ran with a hemi as an A/SA back in the 70's - Sutton and Schmitz?

RJ
You are correct. Gary and I built that car in 1976 after Butch Leal bought our 65 A-990 car. It ran ok but Don Little was the guy who finally figured out how to really make one run. He also was the guy who talked us into running a Six Pack instead of the Hemi. Smartest move we ever made.

Dave

05-01-2009, 07:18 PM	#1
John Mason Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 147 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise Schmidt's for real. Look under "Darin Grossi" on Auto imagery. That was Dave's driver in his B/SA Mopar. Won some Nationals and Divisionals before the car went to Sweden 2 or 3 years ago. __________________ John Mason 7743 SS

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bad man Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise well said john dave was a class act for years with his car.

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Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise If you think that Dave was tough at the track you should try having him for a boss. I worked for him (he will claim that I never worked a day in my life) back in the early 80's and he was always a racers racer. The big problem was all of us getting off to race our cars at the same time. Glad to hear that you're OK. Take care, Bob, Rich & Dave __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

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GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,823 Likes: 2,166 Liked 2,354 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise 1 633 B/SA Hal Sorensen, Vancouver WA, '69 Camaro 10.159 11.93 -1.771

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Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise . For one thing it doesn't take into consideration exceptional conditions like today in Boise. The conditions were beyond mineshaft. So Chuck,if one of us East coast guys flys in real good air I guess we can just dump weight to discount the run to avoid a hit? Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

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Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 743 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise Well, did the run count or not?

05-01-2009, 09:54 PM	#8
John Mason Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 147 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise Kinda fell into a buzz saw, right Chuck? As to weight adjustment prior to scales, let me give you a scenerio. You have a B/SA and run another B/SA in eliminations. They beat you by .01 (ignore reaction times) and, just before the scales, someone hands them a 25 lb. bar which they put under the seat. They are OK by 5 lbs. Is that legal? Of course not. Adjusting weight after a run for any reason is not in keeping with the spirit of the rules. That being said, I've got a lot of respect for the Sorensons, and I understand why they did it. The AHFS makes little sense. It would take little effort to write a computer program that converts ET to match actual DA at the time of the run rather than to an arbitrary factor. We do it all the time with our weather stations. __________________ John Mason 7743 SS