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Old 05-05-2009, 12:55 PM   #1
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RJ... i was the one who tagged the AHFS as the automatic help for slugs...

it seems to me the whole issue surrounds those who have chosen thier combos poorly and believe like our new president and congress that taking from those (who can go fast) will help those who dont wanna work.

i am also the one who has screamed from the mountain tops that the AHFS "can not and will not ever work" because we can manipulate the input (see -1.408 thread). END OF STORY.

the only way to police this is with a committee of intelligent people (none in glendora we know) who can study data from runs (and allow for atmosphere) and then look at each combo in question to determine the POTENTIAL to go fast.

last thing ive been on for years... lower these stupid easy indexes about -.050 and lets race

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Old 05-05-2009, 04:26 PM   #2
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Boy if thats not the truth, More, it was 11.52 in A/SA over 30 years ago. Now its 11.30 how bad is that, folks have not figured out how to go fast in over 30 years.......crap.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:28 PM   #3
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yeah... moral support !!

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Old 05-05-2009, 10:02 PM   #4
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Instead of every one complaining about this system why don't we come up with a "better Way" to help the system ? a good idea in my opinion.
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:23 PM   #5
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Instead of every one complaining about this system why don't we come up with a "better Way" to help the system ? a good idea in my opinion.
Get real Don.You couldn't get 4 S/SS racers to agree if it's day or night.One will say day,one will say night,one will say I don't care and the last one will give you a dumb look.We are slowly sinking into
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:20 PM   #6
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Ed;

I may suspect your may be close to being right,

BUT
I do know a person who can make the system right on with a valid way to do this whole factoring system with out any emotion. I know he will and can explain the "correct' way to do the factoring system if only he would speak up more.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:24 AM   #7
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Yea, I agree with Ed. Those "back east racers" they get night before we do in the west and it allows them to race in cooler temperatures because the sun sets sooner than here in Arizona and they have cool ocean breezes even if they are hundreds of miles away and we have mountains that block those breezes. And the sun rises over there first so they get to start racing before us. And right now it's almost 11 pm here but it's almost 3 am there and in just 3 hours they will wake up and can be racing while we're just waking up! How stupid is that?
And whatever some may think, I know the moon is not as intense here so gravitational pull is not as good. Somehow that is related to how the carb pushes fuel out of the bowl and allows those guys to go faster back east. I haven't figured that one out yet but I will!
Man, looks like I lost my mind there trying to make the AHFS more equal to all.
Goodnight....
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:12 AM   #8
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Get real Don.You couldn't get 4 S/SS racers to agree if it's day or night.One will say day,one will say night,one will say I don't care and the last one will give you a dumb look.We are slowly sinking into
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You are right on target Ed..... no matter what the issue the field is usually split just about 50-50
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Instead of every one complaining about this system why don't we come up with a "better Way" to help the system ? a good idea in my opinion.
Why don't we go back to the simple system of the of the past, and run off the national records! Start by knocking about a second off the index, run everything, with about a .010 breakout, and let the racing do the rest. It may help to bring back points, for records also. That system worked for years, till they came out with the index, which has been argued from day one.
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Why don't we go back to the simple system of the of the past, and run off the national records! Start by knocking about a second off the index, run everything, with about a .010 breakout, and let the racing do the rest. It may help to bring back points, for records also. That system worked for years, till they came out with the index, which has been argued from day one.
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Right on. Thats a good place to start. Some people will claim fields will get smaller. Isn't if heading that way now? Maybe some racers would return to the sport that was screwed up with dialins,dialunders and all that crap. Maybe even the fans would return.
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