A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class

Ron Middleton · 05-13-2009, 11:40 AM

Don,
Dick has very good points and while I understand your concerns just look around and you will see headsup racing is where it's at. There has to be a logical way to get to that point as I am afriad that we will not see anything but the same old until it becomes a show again. Super Modified, the econo classes, and Top Stock started out as well conceived ideas and evolved into where they are today it should be possible to bring about headsup racing without driving most if not all of the current participants out. It seems we often get stuck with that idea that all changes will cost us lots of money and take away our competitive edge. JMT.

Dick Butler · 05-13-2009, 12:02 PM

TOO many Classes = No competition only bracket racing.
TOO sophisticated motors= No new racers TOO much money to enter.
TOO many things to understand as a spectator=no interest
No spectators, no potential buyers in the stands=no sponsors for S and SS.
No heads up of bogus combinations = no true factoring.
If only Specs no need for factoring at the degree it is lacking today.
Even with this compression of ALL racers to 10 ,15 or 1 class at least Drag Racing can continue. The way it is it is its own worst enemy for the above reason.

Ron Middleton · 05-13-2009, 12:39 PM

Dick,
We're on the same page now how to fix it? Got any ideas?

david ring · 05-13-2009, 01:43 PM

I'm as opposed to any motor in a Toyota as I am to banning Toyotas-foreign brands should have the same opportunity to compete as domestic brands but be subject to the same rules.

As for the politics that have been discussed, I just wish GM was as profitable with its domestic operations as with its foreign operations-I suspect the same can be said for Ford.

Don Kennedy · 05-13-2009, 04:42 PM

FYI

Top Fuel has less and less entries each year with the heads up format he who has the most money wins
Funnie car has less and less entries each year with the heads up format he who has the most money wins
Pro Stock has less and less entries each year with the heads up format he who has the most money wins.
Comp has less and less entries each year with the heads up no break out format he who has the most money wins.

Now let me think about having only heads up in Super Stock Not on your life did not work long time ago and will never work now.

The Present racing format in Super Stock is not broken.

hadtobethere · 05-13-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

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The Present racing format in Super Stock is not broken.

Too many classes in Stock & Super Stock, that is the problem, and yes, it may not be broken, but it has several cracks..

George Wright · 05-13-2009, 05:19 PM

Hmmmmmm. Domestic engine in a foreign car......sounds like an episode of Monster Garage.

05-13-2009, 11:40 AM	#1
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Don, Dick has very good points and while I understand your concerns just look around and you will see headsup racing is where it's at. There has to be a logical way to get to that point as I am afriad that we will not see anything but the same old until it becomes a show again. Super Modified, the econo classes, and Top Stock started out as well conceived ideas and evolved into where they are today it should be possible to bring about headsup racing without driving most if not all of the current participants out. It seems we often get stuck with that idea that all changes will cost us lots of money and take away our competitive edge. JMT.

05-13-2009, 12:02 PM	#2
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class TOO many Classes = No competition only bracket racing. TOO sophisticated motors= No new racers TOO much money to enter. TOO many things to understand as a spectator=no interest No spectators, no potential buyers in the stands=no sponsors for S and SS. No heads up of bogus combinations = no true factoring. If only Specs no need for factoring at the degree it is lacking today. Even with this compression of ALL racers to 10 ,15 or 1 class at least Drag Racing can continue. The way it is it is its own worst enemy for the above reason.

05-13-2009, 12:39 PM	#3
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Dick, We're on the same page now how to fix it? Got any ideas?

05-13-2009, 01:43 PM	#4
david ring Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oneonta.,NY Posts: 889 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class I'm as opposed to any motor in a Toyota as I am to banning Toyotas-foreign brands should have the same opportunity to compete as domestic brands but be subject to the same rules. As for the politics that have been discussed, I just wish GM was as profitable with its domestic operations as with its foreign operations-I suspect the same can be said for Ford.

05-13-2009, 04:42 PM	#5
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 904 Times in 237 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class FYI Top Fuel has less and less entries each year with the heads up format he who has the most money wins Funnie car has less and less entries each year with the heads up format he who has the most money wins Pro Stock has less and less entries each year with the heads up format he who has the most money wins. Comp has less and less entries each year with the heads up no break out format he who has the most money wins. Now let me think about having only heads up in Super Stock Not on your life did not work long time ago and will never work now. The Present racing format in Super Stock is not broken. __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS Last edited by Don Kennedy; 05-13-2009 at 08:36 PM.

05-13-2009, 05:19 PM	#7
George Wright Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 185 Likes: 10 Liked 408 Times in 35 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Hmmmmmm. Domestic engine in a foreign car......sounds like an episode of Monster Garage. __________________ George Wright https://9500rpm.com