Selecting the first few pairings to run - Page 2

Michael Beard · 06-09-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

There are many racers on this forum. What are their reasons for different arrival times. Lets hear it.

Um, when they call us to the lanes, I go to the lanes. -=shrug=- Funny, I thought that's what we were supposed to do.

Steve Williams · 06-09-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard

When I was running both Stock and Super Stock last year, there were several occasions that I got back from my Stock run, and they were already calling Super Stock. I did my logbook, weather, checked over the Super Stocker, and headed for the lanes... and was afraid I might be late. Nope, first pair out, time after time. It's really pretty ridiculous.

You tried to be last and look what happened. You are not trying hard enough. Go get another car and try it again.LOL

Steve

SS Engine Guy · 06-09-2009, 10:12 PM

When the first pair in the class goes down the track, the staging lanes for that catagory should be closed. Only exception is if the tech in charge of staging lanes has been notified that a car is thrashing to make the call. Very simple and the way it was done for years. I remember the signs that stated left or right lane. When turned around, on the back they said "Closed". Also remember the chains that Nitro Joe talked about. Twice last year I was told by tech that I had a break bye and to get in a certain lane. Not that I MIGHT have a break bye. In past years, if tech had been notified you would be told "your opponent is broke but is working on it and might be late. If he shows its a race". Pretty simple if you ask me. Don't need all the tricks but not afraid to use a few of my own if needed.

63corvette · 06-10-2009, 08:00 AM

At the Topeka Ks National event in round 2 or 3 the Super Stock class was run after Super Gas instead of before as it was scheduled because the Super Stock cars were not showing up to run.
That then threw the Super Gas class into a short setup time for paring, for tires, etc. to get ready to go.
I say if you are not in the lanes when your class is run you are out. NO EXCEPTIONS
Why should one class be coddled at the expense of another no matter which class is next in line?
My 2 Cents

CBS · 06-10-2009, 12:12 PM

This happens in several of the classes....last weekend in Joliet....the super gassers were in the lanes but nobody wanted to go first...(including me)....the super stockers were there also....but didn't want to go up in case they put them ahead of the super gassers that wouldn't go up.....I think selecting a random first couple of pairs would fix this situation....I don't like to be in the first couple of pairs simply because I don't like to be rushed getting my stuff on....but if you were selected randomly you would have to go....I know we've talked about it for years.....

Rock

Nitro Joe Jackson · 06-10-2009, 01:37 PM

I think it would only take one or two times to tell those dozen or so in SS & Stock (names of players are all the same people all the time ummmm) that hey your to late, have a nice day and I think there would be no more problems. I'm sure who they are paired up with would second me on it as i know very many has told me how pissed they get waiting for these drivers.

63corvette · 06-10-2009, 04:03 PM

I can understand if someone is running two classes and still in in both when it gets to be a hot lap and they are calling you to the lanes in the other class before you run the other class. That causes late arrivals and can be figured out.
However, at Topeka that was not the case. The Super Stockers were just not willing to go run as scheduled. The whole group should be tossed if no one is willing to go not just move on to the next class.
In Las Vegas at the National event this spring 3rd round was the same in Super Gas until they picked a random pair to run first. At that point when the first pair went up all the others followed.
Just post on the ladder who will be the first pair out in each round and it takes the guess work out.
My 2 Cents

Jim Wahl · 06-10-2009, 05:05 PM

Joe is right Start tossing them! If it's a huge problem running two cars....... don't run two cars! This is a problem that is getting worse not better. It's very simple, did you come to race or not? Some call it a head game, I call it disrespect to your fellow racer. When you are called, go to the lanes or go home! SS Engine Guy has it right. Jim

06-09-2009, 10:12 PM	#13
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Selecting the first few pairings to run When the first pair in the class goes down the track, the staging lanes for that catagory should be closed. Only exception is if the tech in charge of staging lanes has been notified that a car is thrashing to make the call. Very simple and the way it was done for years. I remember the signs that stated left or right lane. When turned around, on the back they said "Closed". Also remember the chains that Nitro Joe talked about. Twice last year I was told by tech that I had a break bye and to get in a certain lane. Not that I MIGHT have a break bye. In past years, if tech had been notified you would be told "your opponent is broke but is working on it and might be late. If he shows its a race". Pretty simple if you ask me. Don't need all the tricks but not afraid to use a few of my own if needed.

06-10-2009, 08:00 AM	#14
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Selecting the first few pairings to run At the Topeka Ks National event in round 2 or 3 the Super Stock class was run after Super Gas instead of before as it was scheduled because the Super Stock cars were not showing up to run. That then threw the Super Gas class into a short setup time for paring, for tires, etc. to get ready to go. I say if you are not in the lanes when your class is run you are out. NO EXCEPTIONS Why should one class be coddled at the expense of another no matter which class is next in line? My 2 Cents

06-10-2009, 12:12 PM	#15
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Selecting the first few pairings to run This happens in several of the classes....last weekend in Joliet....the super gassers were in the lanes but nobody wanted to go first...(including me)....the super stockers were there also....but didn't want to go up in case they put them ahead of the super gassers that wouldn't go up.....I think selecting a random first couple of pairs would fix this situation....I don't like to be in the first couple of pairs simply because I don't like to be rushed getting my stuff on....but if you were selected randomly you would have to go....I know we've talked about it for years..... Rock

06-10-2009, 01:37 PM	#16
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 54 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Selecting the first few pairings to run I think it would only take one or two times to tell those dozen or so in SS & Stock (names of players are all the same people all the time ummmm) that hey your to late, have a nice day and I think there would be no more problems. I'm sure who they are paired up with would second me on it as i know very many has told me how pissed they get waiting for these drivers. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

06-10-2009, 04:03 PM	#17
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Selecting the first few pairings to run I can understand if someone is running two classes and still in in both when it gets to be a hot lap and they are calling you to the lanes in the other class before you run the other class. That causes late arrivals and can be figured out. However, at Topeka that was not the case. The Super Stockers were just not willing to go run as scheduled. The whole group should be tossed if no one is willing to go not just move on to the next class. In Las Vegas at the National event this spring 3rd round was the same in Super Gas until they picked a random pair to run first. At that point when the first pair went up all the others followed. Just post on the ladder who will be the first pair out in each round and it takes the guess work out. My 2 Cents

06-10-2009, 05:05 PM	#18
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,843 Likes: 663 Liked 682 Times in 128 Posts	Re: Selecting the first few pairings to run Joe is right Start tossing them! If it's a huge problem running two cars....... don't run two cars! This is a problem that is getting worse not better. It's very simple, did you come to race or not? Some call it a head game, I call it disrespect to your fellow racer. When you are called, go to the lanes or go home! SS Engine Guy has it right. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. Last edited by Jim Wahl; 06-10-2009 at 05:10 PM.