National opener in Div 6

RPinoski1 · 07-01-2009, 03:21 PM

No bitchin here. Just stated facts......
Seems like a slap in the face to all Class racers doesn't it?
Attend a Stock/Superstock combo with a class car at correct weight against a 750 Holley topped bracket car at who knows what weight knowing that the car couldn't run the index if it was at correct weight with the correct carb and intake.
Then to top it off have those runs count against the AHFS

Tony Janes · 07-01-2009, 07:24 PM

The National Opens will be run the way by who ever makes the final decision on how it is run. Since we do not have a situation where an illegal car has gone 1.40 under, it is not necessary to worry about it until it happens. Most people run national open to get grade points. This makes it a true money bracket, the best packages win..

partsbob67 · 07-01-2009, 07:47 PM

i think that an open should be just that. let it all hang out with no worry about ahfs on monday. kinda like no penalty from comp during qualifing. wheels up and balls out!!!!!! damn the torpedoes!!!!!

Chuck Porter · 07-02-2009, 12:46 AM

Dion,
You've come a long way in a short time. You showed them how to drive in Ashcroft. Don't sell yourself short, you're doing a hell of good a job as far as I'm concerned!
CP

Dion Hildebrandt · 07-02-2009, 07:11 AM

thanks Chuck your probably on of my biggest fans. any word on the friday combo race?

B Aceves · 07-03-2009, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPinoski1

No bitchin here. Just stated facts......
Seems like a slap in the face to all Class racers doesn't it?
Attend a Stock/Superstock combo with a class car at correct weight against a 750 Holley topped bracket car at who knows what weight knowing that the car couldn't run the index if it was at correct weight with the correct carb and intake.
Then to top it off have those runs count against the AHFS

Hey Rich,
BTW, Thanks for the info on the online entry issue. This issue was brought to the attention to a Div 7
tech director at the Nat open in Sac and a racer was told that it was explained to the bracket entry guys in S/SS that if it came down to a issue or someone ponies up the bucks for a teardown that they better be prepared. I think the biggest problem is where they hold the damn race at!!! Not saying the other issue isnt BS either because it is. Hope you get your ride back together soon. Bob A.

RPinoski1 · 07-03-2009, 10:24 AM

Working feverishly on the car.
Weren't national opens ment to be places to set records and get more runs in on w well prepped track? for class racers that is....
Usually the races were planned with mindsahft weather conditions in mind.....

Seems the purpose of a grade point has taken over.

Randy B.791 · 07-03-2009, 10:05 PM

Rich, last year as you stated there were 4 bracket cars in the sac. open. I went to the tech offical and said at least check carbs& intakes as I did not want to lose to somebody that had no work in there cars.30 min.later tech (mike) came to my trailer and wanted to see under my hood.they checked nobody else. the wagon dialed under the record M/sa at the time.....At the next race in Fallon Mike Rice told me he was glad I won with a legal stocker for nat.dragster.this year was all class cars,same results legal stocker won

RPinoski1 · 07-03-2009, 10:31 PM

Randy,
That is what i was refering to......... This year the "word" was out waaaay ahead of time that they were going to do a better job at tech for the S/SS Combo .

All I was saying is.....after what happened the year before, I honestly believe "You don't get a second chance to make a first impression" ...... and unfortunately for Sac Raceway, I think the turnout reflected it this year.

Besides didn't you win it back to back?

B Aceves · 07-04-2009, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPinoski1

Working feverishly on the car.
Weren't national opens ment to be places to set records and get more runs in on w well prepped track? for class racers that is....
Usually the races were planned with mindsahft weather conditions in mind.....

Seems the purpose of a grade point has taken over.

Im not sure what they were thinking about when they decided to hold a National Open at Sac
if they were thinking about that track prep is not a first concern at Sac for sure LOL. And
Mindshaft weather has it not been 1000deg at both races. I think those are both high expectations
on our part and not a concern on others. I would be real surprised if they hold one again next year
due to the turnout and it is once again one less race for us.

07-01-2009, 03:21 PM	#1
RPinoski1 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PLACERVILLE, CA Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 No bitchin here. Just stated facts...... Seems like a slap in the face to all Class racers doesn't it? Attend a Stock/Superstock combo with a class car at correct weight against a 750 Holley topped bracket car at who knows what weight knowing that the car couldn't run the index if it was at correct weight with the correct carb and intake. Then to top it off have those runs count against the AHFS

07-01-2009, 07:24 PM	#2
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 The National Opens will be run the way by who ever makes the final decision on how it is run. Since we do not have a situation where an illegal car has gone 1.40 under, it is not necessary to worry about it until it happens. Most people run national open to get grade points. This makes it a true money bracket, the best packages win.. __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

07-01-2009, 07:47 PM	#3
partsbob67 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: rohnert park,ca Posts: 414 Likes: 11 Liked 79 Times in 11 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 i think that an open should be just that. let it all hang out with no worry about ahfs on monday. kinda like no penalty from comp during qualifing. wheels up and balls out!!!!!! damn the torpedoes!!!!! __________________ bob beals 7244

07-02-2009, 12:46 AM	#4
Chuck Porter Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 104 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 Dion, You've come a long way in a short time. You showed them how to drive in Ashcroft. Don't sell yourself short, you're doing a hell of good a job as far as I'm concerned! CP __________________ Chuck Porter STK

07-02-2009, 07:11 AM	#5
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 thanks Chuck your probably on of my biggest fans. any word on the friday combo race? __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA

07-03-2009, 10:24 AM	#7
RPinoski1 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PLACERVILLE, CA Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 Working feverishly on the car. Weren't national opens ment to be places to set records and get more runs in on w well prepped track? for class racers that is.... Usually the races were planned with mindsahft weather conditions in mind..... Seems the purpose of a grade point has taken over.

07-03-2009, 10:05 PM	#8
Randy B.791 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 16 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 Rich, last year as you stated there were 4 bracket cars in the sac. open. I went to the tech offical and said at least check carbs& intakes as I did not want to lose to somebody that had no work in there cars.30 min.later tech (mike) came to my trailer and wanted to see under my hood.they checked nobody else. the wagon dialed under the record M/sa at the time.....At the next race in Fallon Mike Rice told me he was glad I won with a legal stocker for nat.dragster.this year was all class cars,same results legal stocker won

07-03-2009, 10:31 PM	#9
RPinoski1 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PLACERVILLE, CA Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: National opener in Div 6 Randy, That is what i was refering to......... This year the "word" was out waaaay ahead of time that they were going to do a better job at tech for the S/SS Combo . All I was saying is.....after what happened the year before, I honestly believe "You don't get a second chance to make a first impression" ...... and unfortunately for Sac Raceway, I think the turnout reflected it this year. Besides didn't you win it back to back? Last edited by RPinoski1; 07-03-2009 at 10:44 PM.